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Wow, when you have fans of the OPPOSING TEAM saying that the guy didn't do anything wrong, then maybe he DIDN'T do anything wrong. Of course we don't know the full story, but I think I'd take the word of all the surrounding fans.

 

They could have easily cheered for him to get arrested, but they clearly knew that the guy was being arrested for nothing.

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I would have resisted too!! Getting carted out of the game you payed big money to see for no reason? Fuck that. Even surrounding fans were giving the GF their numbers if they needed witnesses. WTF?! Some crybaby CHargers lied to the police and they just cart him off without investigating. Fuck them. I hope he sues the city.

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Jets Fans arrested at the Jets vs Chargers game for chanting Jets. Guy gets arrested early in the 3rd Quarter before they even started winning. I was surprised as everyone else in the video that he was taken away. This guy was obnoxious but didn't deserve to be arrested. In fact moments before this this woman in a wheelchair asked him to come down and she slapped him in the face and said shut the F*** up. He did nothing and just walked back to his seat with his wife. This may have premeditated the police to come down in the first place. So i guess insult to injury...slapped in the face and yanked before he saw his team come back and win.

 

Trying to be unbiased but I don't think they would have even approached him if he was a chargers fan. No one even talked to the lady in the wheelchair cause she was a chargers fan and she smacked the Jets guy and was calling the other Jets fan bitches.

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Jets Fans arrested at the Jets vs Chargers game for chanting Jets. Guy gets arrested early in the 3rd Quarter before they even started winning. I was surprised as everyone else in the video that he was taken away. This guy was obnoxious but didn't deserve to be arrested. In fact moments before this this woman in a wheelchair asked him to come down and she slapped him in the face and said shut the F*** up. He did nothing and just walked back to his seat with his wife. This may have premeditated the police to come down in the first place. So i guess insult to injury...slapped in the face and yanked before he saw his team come back and win.

 

Trying to be unbiased but I don't think they would have even approached him if he was a chargers fan. No one even talked to the lady in the wheelchair cause she was a chargers fan and she smacked the Jets guy and was calling the other Jets fan bitches.

 

Where are you getting that from, because the video doesn't show that. This is what I see, maybe its cutting out, who knows. But from what I see, is some guy yelling "Jets" over and over again. Then the video immediately cuts to him being arested by about 4-5 police officers.

 

So, from what I'm seeing, there is a BIG part of the video that is missing. But if this is the video, you cannot make an opinion on what happened without that missing part. In fact, that appears to be the MOST crucial part if the video. Why is it missing?! Maybe there is a reason its missing, who knows? But you CANNOT make any informed opionion about why this guy was arrested, you CAN NOT.

 

Also, let me end with this. YOU DO NOT, DO NOT, HAVE A RIGHT TO RESIST ARREST! YOU DON'T, PERIOD!!! If you feel that you are being arrested unjustly, that is what the courts are for. NOT DURING THE ARREST! If you do not heed this warning, you WILL LOSE...PERIOD!

 

Do not listen to the douche bag yelling "I would resist too. You don't have the right to arrest someone for nothing." This kind of advice will get you NO WHERE, but arrested with further charges. Again, save it for the courts.

 

Just some friendly advice from a guy who knows. :police:

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You don't have the right to resist, but when you're in the moment of randomly getting arrested, you're not always going to sit there and be like, "Sure, Officers, take me away!" He's at a football game and there's a great chance that he was drinking, so he wasn't going to go away without a fight.

 

SOURCE: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/rough_go_for_jet_fan_NB4n6uOatukibfcvmIvz8H

 

^^^ READ

 

Undisputed: Carroll was arrested after an off-duty San Diego cop texted stadium police that a Jets fan was being drunk and belligerent.

 

Police Account

Carroll was arrested on suspicion of public intoxication, then got an additional charge for resisting arrest. Police say the video doesn't show what happened before the arrest: They say Carroll refused to leave after being asked three times by police. They say the video also doesn't show him striking a defense posture, attempting to headbutt an officer, and balling his hand into a fist.

 

Mans Account

Even San Diego fans sitting around Carroll protested the arrest, and can be heard on the video telling police Carroll didn't do anything wrong. Carroll says he wasn't drunk, and the police refused to let him take a breath test to prove his sobriety. He says he was only asked to leave once, and refused because he hadn't done anything illegal.

 

Last three quotes via http://reason.com/blog/2010/01/21/jets-fan-arrested-at-chargers

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While you may have a point Irish, it's one of the biggest problems with the system. I am friends with alot of police officers that are great guys and good at their jobs. There are outnumbered by the d-bags with an ego because they have a shield. Will the court re-imburse me for the money I spent on tickets? Nope. They wouldn't even apologize. As far as I'm concerned, law enforcement as a whole is worthless and corrupt.

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Well, there are always 2 sides I guess. But on tape, video evidence, there was no merit for this. And to think, strangers, even people who were probably getting annoyed at him being a loud fan of the other team, were coming to his defense. I like cops, I've banged a few of the female variety (most of them are easy), and when they're not giving me parking tickets or excuses why they can't catch the guys that broke into my house...they make me feel safe. A little. Unfortunately, a good number of them are reasonably uneducated, high and tight haircut fat ones who get off on having the badge and the authority it dictates. That is why so many videos pop up on youtube about these guys abusing these rights and shaming the uniform.

On the OTHER hand...it is a HUGE shame that we don't see the videos of cops being heroic, putting their lives at danger (i'm not talking about fat steven seagal chasing a crackhead and talking about zen), and the ones who truly believe in what they are doing. The ones that reach out to the community and definitely strive to impact it. I think we need more of those videos, because the stereotype listed above of which I describe and unfortunately prescribe to, sucks donkey. Good cops of America! I salute you! just stop giving me fines and be there when I actually need you.

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You don't have the right to resist, but when you're in the moment of randomly getting arrested, you're not always going to sit there and be like, "Sure, Officers, take me away!" He's at a football game and there's a great chance that he was drinking, so he wasn't going to go away without a fight.

 

SOURCE: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/rough_go_for_jet_fan_NB4n6uOatukibfcvmIvz8H

 

^^^ READ

 

Undisputed: Carroll was arrested after an off-duty San Diego cop texted stadium police that a Jets fan was being drunk and belligerent.

 

Police Account

Carroll was arrested on suspicion of public intoxication, then got an additional charge for resisting arrest. Police say the video doesn't show what happened before the arrest: They say Carroll refused to leave after being asked three times by police. They say the video also doesn't show him striking a defense posture, attempting to headbutt an officer, and balling his hand into a fist.

 

Mans Account

Even San Diego fans sitting around Carroll protested the arrest, and can be heard on the video telling police Carroll didn't do anything wrong. Carroll says he wasn't drunk, and the police refused to let him take a breath test to prove his sobriety. He says he was only asked to leave once, and refused because he hadn't done anything illegal.

 

Last three quotes via http://reason.com/blog/2010/01/21/jets-fan-arrested-at-chargers

 

So basically its he said, he said, kind of thing. We still don't know. And I'm sorry, just because you paid for tickets to anything doesn't give you a right to be there. You are there on the permission from the venue. I hear that crap all of the time. "Its a public place, and I have RIGHT to be here." No its a private place, that ALLOWS the public to be there. Which can be revoked by the private parties at anytime for no reason.

 

Again, when people say they would resist or they have a right to resist, is absolutely wrong. And being drunk is not a real good defense. If the police or security tell you to leave, you leave. If you feel you were wrongly ejected, then take it up with management. Or if you feel you were wrongly arrested, you take it up in the courts.

 

So now this guy, who didn't get to see the game end, will have to appear in court to answer the charges that do not appear to being dropped. If he would have just left, and complained later, he would be fine.

 

BigMoneyNacku ]

While you may have a point Irish, it's one of the biggest problems with the system. I am friends with alot of police officers that are great guys and good at their jobs. There are outnumbered by the d-bags with an ego because they have a shield. Will the court re-imburse me for the money I spent on tickets? Nope. They wouldn't even apologize. As far as I'm concerned, law enforcement as a whole is worthless and corrupt.

 

I really think its the other way dude. Its the old adage "A few bad apples spoils the bunch." Cops doing good doesn't sell advertising. But the small percent that are like you said "d-bags with an ego because they have a shield" does sell, because that's what people want to see and read.

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Well, there are always 2 sides I guess. But on tape, video evidence, there was no merit for this.

 

You cannot make that judgement from this video. There is obviously a part missing. Now whether its in favor of the fan or in favor of the police, we'll probably never know.

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You could be right, Bull, and like I said unfortunately the public's eye is tainted. I think a lot of this has to do with frustration that for us honest, hard working people...cops are never there when we need them. But as soon as the city can collect money from us, or hassle us for anything...boom, there is a whole squad of them. At least, that has been my experience.

I was in a bad car accident where I fell asleep at the wheel and took my car under an 18wheeler. I woke up to the state trooper sitting on my bed grilling me as soon as I opened my eyes, accusing me of drunk driving. I honestly have no recollection of the accident, or even getting into my car, and to date have problems with short term recall due to head trauma. But this idiot cop charged me with all kinds of tickets, from wreckless driving, to God knows what. Granted, I count my lucky stars that I was the only one injured and will forever give thanks for that, but this moron cop was just frustrated I guess because my tox levels didn't give him the dui he was looking for. Eff him.

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The profession in itself is a double edged sword. The public 99.9% of the time only have contact with the police during something negative. You either had to call them because something bad happened or God forbid is happening to you, OR they are accusuing you of doing something illegal.

 

I'm on my third and final police department. And from all the people I have worked with, its a very small percent that ruins it for the rest of us.

 

My main point for posting on this thread was not to defend the police. It was just to let people know its never a good idea to resist arrest. Think of this. If you decide you didn't do anything wrong and decide to resist arrest, but the cop you are resisting is one of those "bad apple". It can end with tragic results. I don't think ANYONE here would want their loved ones to say..."He's gone, but at least he stood his ground."

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The public 99.9% of the time only have contact with the police during something negative. You either had to call them because something bad happened or God forbid is happening to you, OR they are accusuing you of doing something illegal.

 

That's it right there. What about all the times that police officers arrested that drunk driver before he hit you head on and killed you or a passenger in your car, or that mugger lurking in the alley, earlier in the evening, that you just walked past, or, or, or, or ................ ? People choose not to consider the positive or all the times that police officers have done something that positively affected them, even without their knowledge.

 

Also, the "average" citizen is not going to be "harassed" by police officers. (I do understand that some do "harass" people without cause and those are the EXCEPTION.) Usually, if a police officer is "harassing" you, there is probably something that you have done to draw their attention. Generally speaking, if you follow the laws, and are an upstanding citizen, you don't really have to worry about this kind of thing.

 

If cops are "harassing" you and you "have done nothing" wrong, you might want to take a look at yourself and see what you are doing that might be drawing their attention.

 

 

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As far as I'm concerned, law enforcement as a whole is worthless and corrupt.

 

 

Coming from Corrections, that statement couldn't be further from the truth. I suppose society would be better off if Judges, Lawyers, Police Officers and Prison guards simply stopped showing up for work. I don't believe that you hold such convictions. Either you've had some negative experiences with law enforcement or you disdain authority in general. But neither belief or any other for that matter will ever make your statement true. :police:

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While you may have a point Irish, it's one of the biggest problems with the system. I am friends with alot of police officers that are great guys and good at their jobs. There are outnumbered by the d-bags with an ego because they have a shield. Will the court re-imburse me for the money I spent on tickets? Nope. They wouldn't even apologize. As far as I'm concerned, law enforcement as a whole is worthless and corrupt.

 

I was arrested in front of my kids just before Christmas and it WAS because I broke the law however the judge and the 2 Officer's that were involved did apologize for doing it in front of my kids. They unfortunately had no choice they had the warrant and had to arrest me.

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I have to agree with Irish on this one and not because I am a cop..but because it only makes perfect sense. As soon as I watched it and the video cut out and then back on, I immediately felt that there was something that the maker of the video didn't want us to see. That video was edited and no one posting here knows what happened in the part that ended up on the cutting room floor. For all any of you know, he spit at the cops or did something else...I have to believe that in the missing part of the video is the answer to everyone's question.

 

Let's say that there is a video out there that we all watched....in that video a guy is ranting and raving at the cops..then the video cuts out and then back on and now that person is bleeding from their head or has a black eye or anything else. People are going to say "Police Brutality" "The cops split that guy open for no reason!" etc..etc..etc..The local media is going to have their lead story on this Police Brutality video for the evening news.

 

Then later, someone produces the whole video and truth be told, the person fell on their own and hit their head and when the cops tried to administer first aid, he got more violent and out of control, which happens all the time.

 

Do you think the media will have that as the lead story on the 6 o'clock news....no!

 

When you pass judgment and form opinions..try to look at it for what it is....and what this video is..is...missing a segment!!

 

I will also say that, if, in fact, this guy did NOTHING wrong, broke no laws..then those cops need to be held accountable. You can't just go around violating people's rights.

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I will also say that, if, in fact, this guy did NOTHING wrong, broke no laws..then those cops need to be held accountable. You can't just go around violating people's rights.

 

That's true. But if this guy was told to leave or come with the police after they ordered him too, he again, does not have the right to refuse right there. He has to follow their orders to leave. If he refuses, he now is trespassing. He is in a privately owned premise.

 

BTW, what this guy is doing is called passive resistance. Look it up if you don't know what it is. You don't have to be kicking and punching to be resisting. Keep that in mind also. I would bet that is how this all went down. They told this guy he has to leave, he asked why, they don't give him a reason he likes, and he tells them NO. When they go to escort him from the premise, he goes stiff or limp and basically starts to resist passively.

 

Notice at the end the big mouth who is told to leave and come with the police. He was the big mouth who was yelling "I would resist too." Well he actually handled that situation perfectly. If he feels he was being treated unjustly by the police, he can take that up with a lawyer. Not the police officer who is telling him to leave while at the scene.

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BigMoneyNacku ]

As far as I'm concerned, law enforcement as a whole is worthless and corrupt.

 

 

Coming from Corrections, that statement couldn't be further from the truth. I suppose society would be better off if Judges, Lawyers, Police Officers and Prison guards simply stopped showing up for work. I don't believe that you hold such convictions. Either you've had some negative experiences with law enforcement or you disdain authority in general. But neither belief or any other for that matter will ever make your statement true. :police:

 

 

Did you see the part that says, "As far as I'm concerned"? I wasn't stating it as a fact. When you have been pulled over and harrassed as many times as I have for DWB, or been hooked up for merely spectating some bullshit(because I just had to be involved I guess), or been smacked with a fucking mag light repeatedly and punched in the face, or any of the plethora of other bullshit I've had to endure maybe you wouldn't be so high and mighty about law enforcement. I even had my face slammed into a brick wall by a dirty fucker when my mother died, because, and I quote, "this black mfer claims he is the son of the deceased(my mother was white). Even with my half brother standing there telling him she was in fact my mother, I got to sit in handcuffs until his supervisor showed up and made him unhook me. Lucky for me he knew me or I might have gotten to take a trip in the cruiser. I have quite a few stories about shit like this, where I did NOTHING wrong and still got fucked. All of the times shit like this has happened, there were 0 charges filed against me, because I did nothing.

 

So you can see why I percieve EVERY cop I come into contact with as a worthless p.o.s, until they prove otherwise. Hell, we are all percieved as perps, until proven otherwise. Don't take this as a personal slam, I think you are a good guy, but if you approach me in uniform and I don't kow you, you are the enemy.

 

I've had my fair share of run-ins with the law in my early youth, where I fully deserved exactly what I got. I've never complained about those instances, or held it against the officers that fucked me up. I deserved it. But after all the unwarranted bullshit I've had to deal with since I put those days behind me have deservedly put me on the hater side of the fence.

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I understand what your saying Naku. I appreciate your perspective. I don't know where you live or why on earth Law Enforcement is so vindictive in your area, that boggles my mind, especially in todays Politically Correct environment. I'm from Canada and I can say that while there are dirty cops, the majority of them are upstanding men and women who take pride in serving the public. With that said, in my 5 years in the business I have seen 4 Police Officers arrested for one thing or another and I've had to serve them meals through a Segregation hatch for up to 8 months. So I know we take abuse of power extremely serious up here and will make them accountable if they decide to take advantage of the public trust given to them.

 

As a side note, if a person does have a criminal record, Law Enforcement will tend to stop them frequently if they see them walking or driving down the street and question them. I constantly hear inmates complaining of this. My response is always... "Why do you set yourself up to fail?" Don't be walking down the street 1200 at night, you need to be doing it cleaner than the next guy. Get a job, prove to people you want to change and slowly you'll start gaining people's trust. Their response? "Ah boss, the systems corrupt, it'll never change!"

 

I say "Be the change you want to see."

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