steroid list, directly from mitchell report

[RNG187]

http://files.mlb.com/mitchrpt.pdf THE actual report, OR the shortened version:

 

lenny dykstra, mets and phillies

david segui, mets, orioles, expos, mariners, blue jays, rangers, and indians

larry bigbie, orioles, rockies, and cardinals

brian roberts, orioles

jake cust, diamondbacks, rockies, orioles, padres, and A's

tim laker, expos, orioles, devil rays, pirates, and indians

josias manzanillo, red sox, brewers, mets, yankees, mariners, pirates, reds, and marlins

todd hundley, mets, dodgers, and cubs

mark carreon, mets, tigers, giants, and indians

hal morris, yankees, reds, royals, and tigers

matt franco, mets, cubs, and braves

rondell white, expos, cubs, yankees, royals, padres, tigers, and twins

roger clemens, red sox, blue jays, yankees, and astros

andy pettitte, yankees, and astros

chuck knoblauch, twins, yankees, and royals

jason grimsley, phillies, indians, angels, yankees, royals, orioles, and diamondbacks

gregg zaun, orioles, marlins, rangers, royals, astros, rockies, and blue jays

david justice, braves, indians, yankees, A's

F.P. santangelo, expos, giants, dodgers, and A's

glenallen hill, blue jays, indians, cubs, giants, mariners, yankees, and angels

mo vaughn, red sox, angels, and mets

denny neagle, twins, pirates, braves, reds, yankees, and rockies

ron villone, mariners, padres, reds, rockies, astros, pirates, marlins, yankees, brewers and indians

ryan franklin mariners, phillies, reds, and cardinals

chris donnels, mets, astros, red sox, dodgers, and diamondbacks

todd williams, dodgers, reds, mariners, yankees, and orioles

phil hiatt, royals, tigers, and dodgers

todd pratt, phillies, cubs, mets, and braves

kevin young, pirates and royals

mike lansing, expos, rockies, and red sox

cody mckay, A's and cardinals

kent mercker, braves, orioles, indians, reds, cardinals, red sox, angels, rockies and cubs

adam piatt, A's and devil rays

miguel tejada, A's and orioles

jason christiansen, pirates, cardinals, giants and angels

mike stanton, yankees, nationals, giants, reds, braves, red sox and rangers

stephen randolph, diamondbacks

jerry hairston jr, orioles, cubs and rangers

paul lo duca, dodgers, marlins, and mets

adam riggs, dodgers, padres, and angels

bart miadich, angels

fernando vina, mariners, mets, brewers, cardinals, and tigers

kevin brown, rangers, orioles, marlins, padres, dodgers, and yankees

eric gagne, dodgers, rangers, red sox, and brewers

mike bell, reds

matt herges, dodgers, expos, giants, padres, diamondbacks, marlins, and rockies

gary bennett jr, phillies, mets, rockies, padres, brewers, nationals, and cardinals

jim parque, white sox, and devil rays

brendan donnelly, angels, and red sox

chad allen, twins, indians, marlins, and rangers

jeff williams, dodgers

howie clark, orioles, and blue jays

exavier logan, tigers and nationals

daniel naulty, twins and yankees

rick ankiel, cardinals

David bell, indians, brewers, cardinals, giants, and phillies

paul byrd, indians

jose canseco

jay gibbons, orioles

troy glaus, blue jays and angels

jose guillen, mariners

gary matthews jr, angels

john rocker, braves

scott schoenweis, mets

 

 

 

that's it. ;D

[Chili327]

* on all of them, & deface every one of their ball's in the hall of fame.. lol

[Chili327]

Clemens is no different than Bonds

 

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports

December 13, 2007

 

Dan Wetzel

Yahoo! Sports

 

Year after year he peddled the same garbage, Roger Clemens was so dominant for so long because he simply outworked everyone. It played to the nation's Puritan roots, made Clemens out to be this everyman maximizing his skills through singular focus, dedication and a commitment to drinking carrot juice, or something.

 

It's all gone now, the legend of Rocket Roger dead on arrival of the Mitchell Report; one of the greatest pitchers of all time, his seven Cy Youngs and 354 career victories lost to history under a pile of lies and syringes.

 

Clemens was injected with performance-enhancing drugs and human growth hormones by his former trainer starting in 2000 and continuing many times through the years, trainer Brian McNamee told George Mitchell in great detail.

 

Baseball has its white Barry Bonds.

 

 

The sport has been waiting for the other shoe to drop on the 45-year-old Clemens for years. What he did defied not just age, but belief, and if there is one thing we know about Bud Selig's sorry era, it's that if something seems too good to be true, it is.

 

The smoking gun comes from Brian McNamee, a former New York Yankees employee who used to work as a personal trainer for Clemens and his buddy Andy Pettitte, who is also cited in the report. McNamee is also a witness in a federal investigation and spoke to Mitchell and federal investigators under the penalty of perjury. The details are in Mitchell's 300-plus page, 20-month, $30 million report released Thursday afternoon.

 

Clemens refused to meet with Mitchell, according to the report. "In order to provide Clemens with information about these allegations and to give him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined," Mitchell wrote.

 

If McNamee is wrong and Mitchell ran with it anyway, then Clemens can sue the former Congressional leader, Major League Baseball and his drug-dealing former trainer for about a billion dollars.

 

This report, painstakingly investigated and detailed, may be a witch hunt to cleanse Selig's soul, but it isn't operated by fools. It’s extremely unlikely Mitchell and MLB would set itself up for such risk.

 

No matter what the defense that emerges, Clemens will struggle to ever win in the court of public opinion.

 

Which leaves baseball fans with the gut-punch reality that the generations' greatest hitter – Bonds – and greatest pitcher – Clemens – are nothing but drug-enhanced cautionary tales.

 

It is Clemens and his arrogance through the years that makes this one so distasteful. Just like Bonds, he relished in his greatness, seemed to mock all the other mortals who couldn't keep up with his workout regimens, his off-season drive, his freak of nature physical abilities.

 

He liked to convey that maybe anyone could do this, if they just were as tough as the Texas Con Man.

 

And just like Bonds, you have to wonder why it was ever necessary. Clemens was an all-time great back in the 1980s and early 1990s, when he was presumably clean. He had three Cy Youngs and a MVP by 1991, when he was just 28. He didn't need to cheat to become rich and famous.

 

Maybe it was ego, maybe jealousy, maybe insecurity. It hardly matters now that his deal with the devil just came painfully due.

 

There is a forgivable element to some of the other names. Baseball is a global game now, which is why there are too many factors involved – a chance to leave third-world poverty for cash-flush America – to ever end the lure of doping.

 

Clemens has no such excuse.

 

The only surprise here for anyone paying attention was that Mitchell actually caught him.

 

For years Bonds supporters have pointed the finger at Clemens as a sign of a media (and racial) double standard. Their guy was getting crucified daily, while Clemens was getting standing ovations and new contracts.

 

But until now there was never a credible link to performance-enhancing drugs. There were rumors, broad-based speculation and a tenuous mention in the Jason Grimsley affidavit. But Bonds was caught up in a federal investigation into BALCO, a prison term for Victor Conte and a mountain of other evidence.

 

Call it Clemens' good fortune, but there was only so much you could say. Not any longer.

 

Anyone who spent years spewing contempt at Bonds needs to do the same to Clemens, because there is no difference between them.

 

They are just two guys who had it all, foolishly went for more, and have now lost everything.

 

Welcome to America's pastime, pass the peanuts and cracker jacks.

 

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Now what biotches..!?

Whaaa Bonds cheated, Ruin his ball, blah, blah, blah.!

[Guest Skipper]

Clemens didn't have ex-girlfriends and teammates calling him out. Nor was he hated by the media like Bonds was.

 

There's no racial bias here. Mark McGuire was called out almost days after he his is 61st homerun.

[Autosniper]

I agree Skip. Clemens went forth and was very much with his fans. Recently it was well known of the hormones and drugs going into his arm due to pains. He deserves more respect than many others. He can not be compared to Bonds. Clemens was WAYYYYYYYY more respectable.

[Chili327]

So as long as you are respectable cheating is ok..!? (i see how it is )

[RNG187]

theres no bias here, at ALL. and you can not argue that, ALL cases are being treated the same, the commish even specifically stated that during his address.

[STREETSWEEPR1]

THIER ALL BUMS........

 

THE ONLY ONE ON THEIR I CONSIDER AS A RED SOX IS MO VAUGN..

 

BUT I SEE FOUR OR FIVE THAT HAVE PLAYED FOR THEM....

 

 

FUCKING BUMS

[SOTG Savage]

look at all them yankees :o

[RNG187]

yeah the yankees disappointed me, but its funny as HELL that pettite AND clemens BOTH used steroids, and SUCKED.

[Guest Skipper]

Chili-Palmer ]

So as long as you are respectable cheating is ok..!? (i see how it is )

 

No. So as long as you are respectable you won't be made a media circus of.

 

 

(I sound like Yoda...lol)

[R!PB-U-L-L-Y]

they dont a have a posative test for any one of them and untill one of them pops a drug test i dont care about a list cause anyone person can say ooooo i saw this person taking this thats bs

[[PHS] Pai_Mei]

Really though...you pay these guys millions of dollars a year and expect them to perform at these levels for their entire contracts. What do you really expect an aging player to do? Would you really drop your $12m/yr when you are 35, or juice and continue your carreer? These guys are human just like the rest of us...they want to keep that cash coming in, and performance enhancement is what they have available. As far as I see it, they know the side effects of the drug, and are willing to risk it so they can fulfill the expectation set forth by the coaches, and worse yet, the fans.

[RNG187]

bully, read the report, look at the evidence, the CHECKS, the ORDER FORMS w/ HGH and shit like that on it, not to mention ALL the players tie into each other, one way or another, it isnt bullshit. at all bro..

[STREETSWEEPR1]

fuck them bums ...

 

every other person that is out their busting their ass ......like tree removal, construction , baseball,sports and other shit that requires tuff work ethics and strenuous work ....they dont need steriods, that is a poor excuse for them ....

 

steriods is cheating ...bottom line it is cheating ....

 

 

 

poor millionares...maybe they should have planned to save their millions in a better way...if you cant cut it then you hang it up become a announcer, broadcaster,coach anything ....but no they choice to cheat and they got caught......

 

 

cheaters

cheaters

cheaters

[RNG187]

hell froze over......street, i agree completely.

[STREETSWEEPR1]

RNG187 ]

hell froze over......street' date=' i agree completely.

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SHIT IT ONLY TOOK A COUPLE WEEKS...and lets hope hell isnt frozen...cuz if thats the cases then my patriots are in trouble

[Chili327]

B-U-L-L-Y ]

they dont a have a posative test for any one of them and untill one of them pops a drug test i dont care about a list cause anyone person can say ooooo i saw this person taking this thats bs

Did they get a positive test from Barry..?

 

I really don't care about all of this, i am just pissed at all the people who crucified Barry. & Voted to ruin his Hall of Fame ball. (by the way, i also believe Pete Rose should allowed in the Hall.!)

[STREETSWEEPR1]

Chili-Palmer ]

B-U-L-L-Y ]

they dont a have a posative test for any one of them and untill one of them pops a drug test  i dont care about a list cause anyone person can say ooooo i saw this person taking this thats bs

Did they get a positive test from Barry..?

 

I really don't care about all of this, i am just pissed at all the people who crucified Barry. & Voted to ruin his Hall of Fame ball. (by the way, i also believe Pete Rose should allowed in the Hall.!)

yes he should specially after this shit....and clemens is fucked, his kids are gonna be like what the fuck dad....he is getting bashed but not like barry..barry broke a homerun record clemens broke pitching records ..homerun record much bigger..