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And did anyone else see McCain's interview about UFC and steroids on ESPN?!

 

Holy shit I LMAO! :D

 

And how does that affect the American people and their troubles? I mean, if talking about the US military is a distraction or not a priority (not my words, someone else's) to the American people at this time, don't tell me that the UFC is a concern.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKqHFk-3yQM&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/17/mafpac-ad-hits-obama-on-iraq-interference/

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And did anyone else see McCain's interview about UFC and steroids on ESPN?!

 

Holy shit I LMAO! :D

 

And how does that affect the American people and their troubles? I mean, if talking about the US military is a distraction or not a priority (not my words, someone else's) to the American people at this time, don't tell me that the UFC is a concern.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKqHFk-3yQM&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/17/mafpac-ad-hits-obama-on-iraq-interference/

 

No, that wasn't my point by bringing it up, I just found it hilarious is all, has nothing to do with whether he's a better candidate or not IMO.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-16-biden-lobbyist_N.htm

 

WASHINGTON — As Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama targets his Republican rival Sen. John McCain for hiring former lobbyists to work on his campaign, a key member of Obama's campaign is paying a Washington lobbyist for legal advice: his running mate, Sen. Joe Biden.

 

You can read the whole article for yourselves. I think ^^^^^ that sum's it up pretty well.

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I just have ONE question for you Hog... after this final blow back of our economy and having YOUR party in charge for the past 8 years with 3/4 of the time controlling congress, how do you go into the voting booth and pull that lever for another republican? Every single republican I see on tv right now is running from their name ® and trying to take off the republican suit and say they are going to change everything. THEY ARE THE ONES IN OFFICE RIGHT NOW! LOLLOLOLOL Do you really think the american ppl will be so stupid to fall for this?

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During the Saddleback Forum, Obama said that biggest moral failure of his lifetime was the lack of generousity of the United States. Which in it's self is a bogus remark, the US is the most charitable country on the planet, and among industrialized nations as much as 21% more generous than other countries, as a government and per private donations from it's citizens.

 

Since Senator Obama has decided to make "charity" an issue, let's take a look at the charitable gifts give by a few people.

 

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/17/charitable-gifts-by-politicians-add-up-for-some/

 

First up, those evil Bush's and Cheney's: President Bush and First Lady Laura Bush donated over $165,000 in 2007. Vice President Cheney and his wife, Lynne, have donated close to $8 million while he has been in office.

 

What about the Clinton's: As far as other politicians go, tax returns show that Bill and Hillary Clinton gave more than $10.2 million to charity over the past seven years.

 

What about that poor guy Senator Kerry who had the last election stolen from him: Democrat John Kerry, who ran in 2004, sometimes did not claim any charitable contributions in the 1990s despite having a six-figure income, although he did report nearly $44,000 in contributions on earnings of nearly $400,000 in 2003, the year before his unsuccessful White House bid. Kerry’s wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, is thought to be worth at least half a billion dollars. She files her tax returns separately, and the Kerry campaign never released her tax returns.

 

Amost done, only two left, next up is fiesty VP Nominee Senator Joe Biden, the right man at the right time, or so they say: Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden has come under criticism in recent weeks for his charitable giving — or, more specifically, the lack of it. The Delaware senator and his wife, Jill, showed annual earnings of more than $200,000 and sometimes $300,000 between 1998 and 2007. And they gave relatively very little of it away. In 2007, their most generous year, the Bidens gave $995 to charity. In 1999, their charitable donations added up to $120. :o Wow. I bet if I shoved a lump of coal up his ass I would have a diamond in a week, because that's tight right there.

 

And finally, the rock star Senator Obama and his wife: A check of Obama’s giving reveals a wide range of interests. According to figures released by his campaign — Obama has released his tax returns dating back to 2000 — Obama and his wife, Michelle, who earned a total of $4.2 million in income in 2007, donated $240,000 to charity that year.

 

So, after publicly and more importantly wrongly criticizing America for it's lack of charitable spirit, Senator Obama has seen fit to only give less than 5% of his income to charity.

 

Submitted for your consideration as to one's words compared to one's deeds.

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I just have ONE question for you Hog... after this final blow back of our economy and having YOUR party in charge for the past 8 years with 3/4 of the time controlling congress, how do you go into the voting booth and pull that lever for another republican? Every single republican I see on tv right now is running from their name ® and trying to take off the republican suit and say they are going to change everything. THEY ARE THE ONES IN OFFICE RIGHT NOW! LOLLOLOLOL Do you really think the american ppl will be so stupid to fall for this?

 

I don't think the American people are stupid at all. I think they are smart enough to think and decide for themselves.

 

I think that when they see Speaker of the House Pelosi deny that no Democrat whatsoever had any failings where the economy is concerned, they can decide for themselves if they believe her or not.

 

I think when the Senate Majority leader Democrat Senator Harry Ried from Nevada say's today about the economy "no one know's what to do" but obviously he knows who to blame. People can decide for themselves if they believe him or not.

 

I'm not the one saying the candidate I obviously am supporting is perfect. I'm not the one telling people how they should think. That's you my friend. I'm only making the viewership informed of information that they might not be previously aware of. It's called free speech, the last time I read the Constitution this was a free country.

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Please point out where I'm saying how ppl should think? LMAO! I'm just stating facts. You just keep posting FauxNews talking points thinking that's going to sway ppl's minds. It brings nothing to the table my friend. I refuse to read any of these FauxNews links. They are worse then Moveon.org IMO.

 

Obviously the republican party thinks the american ppl are stupid or they wouldn't be trying this switch O roo'! I agree with the Nancy and Ried remarks. They are ridiculous and the dems are PARTIALLY at fault. But it's more comical what the repubs are doing right now. They really are banking on everyone forgetting who has been in power for the past 8 years! LOLOL

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How long is this going to continue? You ask me a question. I answer. You imply stupidity, spinning, or I'm drinking Kool Aid (demeaning reference to being like the Rev. Jones people who blindly drank arsenic laced Kool Aid to commit mass suicide in Guiena) in response to my answer.

 

Don't like what I'm saying? Then post a counter arguement using a reputable news source like I have been doing. Let people look at both sides of the issue and let them decide what they choose to believe.

 

What's wrong with that? Can't you make your point without trying to make others out as ill informed, stupid, or worse?

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Dude, tell me where I've said any of that? I've countered plenty of your post. Just about every one with fact checks and counters. Don't get all riled cause I call out FauxNews links for what they are. I've not once said you or Red where dumb or ill informed. Ok, I do think I posted that koolaid joke only after you were trying to be a history revisionist for Clinton. LOL ;)

 

I just think posting up FauxNews and O'Riely talking points doesn't bring anything to the table. Most of what your posting isn't true, or is skewed. That is my opinion and I wont' apologize for that.

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Its all an illusion CDBS cheap lighting and mirrors. LOL ;)

 

Yeah, Ok Hog. I apologize to you and Red. I have got a bit off message. I'll try and stick to countering without the jabs at you guys or your sources. ;)

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Its all an illusion CDBS cheap lighting and mirrors. LOL ;)

 

Yeah, Ok Hog. I apologize to you and Red. I have got a bit off message. I'll try and stick to countering without the jabs at you guys or your sources. ;)

 

Not necessary but accepted. You can question the sources, if you can prove a reputable news source is being misleading, even if it hurts my arguement I want to hear it, then I will choose what to believe. I always think the truth is the best course of action, even when it's painful.

 

And I can't run for President, while certainly no criminal, I've got entirely too much dirt in my past... :P

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you know i think one day some random dude thats like 42 says screw it im running for president and actually does run and the guy is just straight up like any average person would anyone ver vote for him?

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The media scare is in the air!!!! lol The world is coming to an end! Oh wait...Never mind... Its just election day in 45 days.

 

The economics of this country were set down this path long ago with free trade my friends- And that is more than just a president or two's fault- Its yours and mine. Call and write your senators and congressmen, invest wisely and dont expect for someone else (the government) to bail your sorry ass out, pay your bills or put a roof over your head-

 

Earn it, own it, build it on your own and no one can take it away. A great, free country is only hindered by a even greater all controlling government.

 

If you like socialism move to a country that embraces it but dont steal my EARNED money to take care of your hand outs. When the government gets so large it owns 70% of the homes, takes responsability for mother nature, feels it can give free health care to everyone, manipulates the populous through governing regulations and controlling the economy through tax laws, trade laws, tariffs etc- That country's money will become diluted through out the world and meaningless.

 

Reduce the size of federal government, let states take ownership for their own problems and make people take responsability for their actions- We have created a beast that can kill the American way- and its called Big Gov.

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you know i think one day some random dude thats like 42 says screw it im running for president and actually does run and the guy is just straight up like any average person would anyone ver vote for him?

 

Fuck yeah I would, I bet his ass would turn this country around in a heartbeat, because he wouldn't be focused on any other shit than fixing out nation. Fuck foreign policy, fuck military spending, just an average dude that can represent us all and show us that by making what we want to happen, happen because he wants it to.

 

hell yeah he'd have my vote!

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Fuck yeah I would, I bet his ass would turn this country around in a heartbeat, because he wouldn't be focused on any other shit than fixing out nation. Fuck foreign policy, fuck military spending, just an average dude that can represent us all and show us that by making what we want to happen, happen because he wants it to.

 

hell yeah he'd have my vote!

That was kinda my point.

It doesn't matter what these candidates "say" their going to do.. what matters is what gets done.!!

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Wow. LOL That really says it all. ;)

lmfao! ~ We ALL should be 'forced' to watch 'this video', before we get access to the forum! ;D

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