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HogWild ]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081103/ap_on_el_pr/obama_grandmother

 

Condolences to the Obama family. God knows I disagree on most every political stance Obama has, but I wouldn't wish this on anyone. May God comfort the Obama family during this difficult time.

 

if you didnt post that, i wouldnt have known for another day. :-\

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Time for a November suprise, the final step in the Troopergate investigation of Governer Palin:

 

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/577323.html

 

A new report just released -- hours before the polls open on Election Day -- exonerates Gov. Sarah Palin in the Troopergate controversy.

 

The state Personnel Board-sanctioned investigation is the second into whether Palin violated state ethics law in firing her public safety commissioner, and it contradicts the earlier findings by a special counsel hired by the state Legislature.

 

 

Both investigations found that Palin was within her rights to fire Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan.

 

 

But the new report says the Legislature's investigator was wrong to conclude that Palin abused her power by allowing aides and her husband, Todd, to pressure Monegan and others to dismiss her ex-brother-in-law, Trooper Mike Wooten. Palin was accused of firing Monegan after Wooten stayed on the job.

 

 

The Palins have argued that Wooten was a loose cannon who had tasered his stepson, drank beer in his patrol car, and threatened Palin's father, and that their complaints that he shouldn't be on the force were justified.

 

 

The Troopergate matter became sharply politicized after Palin was announced as Republican presidential candidate John McCain's running mate in Tuesday's election.

 

 

The report, released at a Monday afternoon press conference at the Hotel Captain Cook, presents the findings and recommendations of Anchorage lawyer Timothy Petumenos, hired as independent counsel for the Personnel Board to examine several complaints against Palin.

 

 

Petumenos wrote the Legislature's special counsel, former state prosecutor Steve Branchflower, used the wrong state law as the basis for his conclusions and also misconstrued the evidence.

 

 

His findings and recommendations include:

 

 

- There is no cause to believe Palin violated the state ethics law in deciding to dismiss Monegan as public safety commissioner.

 

 

- There is no cause to believe Palin violated the state ethics law in connection with Wooten.

 

 

- There is no cause to believe any other state official violated the ethics act.

 

 

- There's no basis to conduct a hearing to "address reputational harm," as requested by Monegan.

 

- The state needs to address the issue of using private e-mails for government work and to examine how records are kept in the governor's office. Palin used her Yahoo e-mail account for state business until it was hacked.

 

Now you know both sides of the story. Make up your own minds.

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Parting shot. Some humor for a change of pace:

 

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/02/a-picture-worth-150-000-words/

 

Participate in the democratic process, make your voice be heard, vote and be proud of your vote.

 

Majority rules, it's the democratic and American way. Beats the hell out of a dictator which I think we all can agree we don't want.

 

I've mostly enjoyed the conversation and the discussion of ideals. I think it's healthy for all of us. If your candidate wins be gracious, if he loses accept it and vote again next time around. You will feel better either way.

 

Tomorrow is the day, make the time to vote, no matter who you choose. Just participate in the democratic process, it's your right, exercise it.

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Participate in the democratic process, make your voice be heard, vote and be proud of your vote.

 

Majority rules, it's the democratic and American way. Beats the hell out of a dictator which I think we all can agree we don't want.

 

I've mostly enjoyed the conversation and the discussion of ideals. I think it's healthy for all of us. If your candidate wins be gracious, if he loses accept it and vote again next time around. You will feel better either way.

 

Tomorrow is the day, make the time to vote, no matter who you choose. Just participate in the democratic process, it's your right, exercise it.

 

Well said

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Guest SuddenRedScare

Wow, 55 pages worth of shit talking without having to have a mod step in. Way to be UF! ;)

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Wow, 55 pages worth of shit talking without having to have a mod step in. Way to be UF! ;)

 

This will be the last day this thread remains active.

After a new President is elected, there's really no reason to keep this open.

We've allowed this thread to go on as an essential "no-man's-land" so to speak here on the UF forum.

The ONE place where we're going to allow the political discussion to happen, only because we realize that, with the current economic crisis that is affecting us all, AND the fact that this is probably one of the more important elections that ANY of us will be voting on in our lifetimes (hopefully the last "super-duper-cataclysmic-important-one-before-Armageddon-comes-election), we saw the necessity to allow our players here in the Community have an outlet for this topic.

 

After a new President is elected, it's back to gaming!

The creators and Staff have tried to stay out of the topic as much as possible only because we know what kind of a dangerous ground this can be, going from "discussion" to "idiot-speak" in 10 seconds flat.

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and we thank you ........

as we are all still friends and their was a lot of iNformation from both side and even third sides that a lot of us never looked at and would have never known the facts

now people can see both side of the moon in stead of just the dark side ....

 

GOOD LUCK

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Ladies and Gentlemen... let me introduce the next POTUS!!!! Barrack Hussein Obama

 

barackhopeposter.jpg

 

 

The people have spoken, the poles were right.

 

I want to thank you all who participated in this thread and expressed your views and opinions, as painful and as much as I disagreed with some of you... I DID enjoy it. I hope you will be able to embrace John McCain's words tonight and we can find common ground to stand united at some point. :)

 

Oh, not a told you so moment... but a couple pages back I think I called it 356.... he got damn close to that!

 

 

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Guest SuddenRedScare

Yes, I personally want to thank you also Tow and UF for allowing us to debate here. And you are 100% correct. After this... it's back to gaming!!!!!!!

 

 

 

For sure. I was just trying to point out that even with all the personal attacks on one another, it never got out of hand. The community kept it clean. Did not mean for it to sound like I was calling out the mods. It was indeed fun.

 

 

Also, fuck you Piggy. :)

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