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Looks like -REVEREND- is right. She's not as popular as everyone is making her out to be in her own state. LMAO! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/14/103042/902/965/597033
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Sorry Red, you seem to be misinformed on this. I knew you would try and pull the "its the dems fault" card. BS! FACT: the repubs in congress have not let one bill pass by the dems on the economy. This belongs to this brand of republican. Notice I keep saying this brand? I don't hate the repub party. But this isn't the repub party we have all grown to accept. LOL You can try as you like, but your spin will not help. It WAS and IS the reason that the congress approval rating is where it is. It is this unjust war that 80% + of America wants OUT!!! How do you not see that?
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Bush's. ;D You can't hide from these numbers. The republicans and this admin are responsible and need to answer. inauguration day NOW Unemployment rate 4.2% 6.1% Budget $281 billion SURPLUS! $357 billion DEFICIT DEBT $5.7 trillion $9.7 trillion GAS $1.46 $4.00 It's very clear. When the republicans came into power and now since they have been in power. This is the proof that the american ppl need to be aware of when voting for this brand of republican. Period. Numbers don't lie and you can't spin this. Congress has only been dem run for two years and the repubs haven't let them pass ONE bill or agenda of the economy, so don't give me it's the dems. THIS BRAND OF REPUBLICAN IS WRONG FOR AMERICA AND WILL CONTINUE TO DESTROY OUR GREAT COUNTRY IF WE LET IT.
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you can laugh all you want Red. That is the way things were designed in this country. WE elect these guys to represent us. Why is that laughable? Did you prefer a more Nazi germany approach? Yes the 9% you guys seem to be so proud of is because of one reason and one reason only... The Iraq war. PPL voted for the Dems to send a clear message in 06 to congress that we wanted out! Believing that the Dems would do what they said, and they have sat on their asses and done nothing. That's why they are were they sit at 9%. Should we talk about Bush's approval rating and why his is where it is? LMFAO! This is what will kill McCain in the end. They are not a party of reform and they can't run away from what they have done for the last 8 years and act like they aren't the republican party and that they're this new party, not aligned with the sitting party who has screwed us so bad. NOW THAT IS LAUGHABLE!
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Ha! Not at all. I only stated facts. The fact is 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, Not Clinton's. I have also never said that the Dems are not responsible and partially to blame for things. They are to blame also. I said the the republican run admin and Bush is responsible for the shape of the country right now mainly. There is enough blame to go around though. I will repeat, I am an independent and have no tie to any party. When I see true conservative republican party again, not this brand we've seen for the past 8 years, I might show a little more support. I have plenty of friends over at politico and here in FLA who are republicans that agree, this is not the republican party we've grown up on. Would you agree?
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HOg, the Dem party and Obama has no problem with drilling here. But drill with the countless deeds they already have!!! They want more land when they haven't even drilled on the land the have! Give back the deeds and tell us the plots they want to drill on. Plain and simple. They won't. They are a greedy bunch of bastards that want it all. They are sitting on leases they already have. Why won't they drill on those? http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/23/news/economy/oil_drilling/index.htm
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It is the fault of POTUS. You can't have it both ways. I find it really laughable when ppl say, it's the not the fault of a president when its THEIR admin that dictates policy and enacts agendas of their making. The Bush/McCain policies have been and continue to be a dismal failure. Even Karl Rove said Johnny Mac better be careful about the lies he's passing off in his ads and speeches. KARL ROVE! LOL You know it's bad when HE from your own party is saying it! LMAO! I think that's great that you doing well. I like many ppl I know have my own business. I can tell you that this economy has hurt my business and no matter of more work I try to do will create more business. It's NO fault of my making that my business is doing worse then it was 8 years ago. It lays squarely at the feet of Bush and his admin. Now I'll be fine as I too believe in making things happen and not waiting for anyone to bali me out, but it is a bad time for ppl in America. This is what will win the election for Obama/Biden. I can't wait for the first debate when Obama looks McCain in the face and says, "you are a liar!" It's what Kerry should have done in 04.
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Hog, and how is this effecting the american ppl today? Is this hurting your business right now? Are you making more and doing better then you were 8 years ago? Let's stick to shit that matters. Yes, I will leave it up to CONGRESS, who is WE THE PPL... and Jack Murtha is an ex-marine perfectly capable of doing the right thing. So, yes... I trust him. With another dismal day in the stock market and are economy in a constant downward spiral into the crapper, I can't imagine one american wanting to support 4 more years of this. Johnny Mac has mirrored Bush's economic policies and even said once again today, "the fundamentals of our economy are still strong" He is so out of touch it isn't even funny. He even admitted, "The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,†McCain said in December 2007. This is the number one issue in America right now. What you say about your party that has failed miserably at this? That's the real issue Hog.
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me too. ;D
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This sounds right on target to me? He's not undermining anything. LOL The state of Iraq is weak and fragile right now as David Patreas just said a week ago. They shouldn't do anything right now. Is this supposed to be a "gotcha moment" or something? LMAO! This was an unjust war that should have NEVER been waged. Congress, WE THE PEOPLE... should have a say in this shit. He's spot on once again Hog. I know you want to go back to those 1950's good ol boy days where we just kill em' all. Those days are gone. We don't need another dumb cowboy or good solider pushing horrible foreign policy and wreaking countless relationships around the world. Obama knows what he's doing and was welcomed with better arms then McCain was in Iraq. He will clean up the shit hole that Bush has created.
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This is awesome! Haha!!!
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Haha!!! I swear you could spin Ted Kennedy's CHIPPEWA!!!! LMAO! I think Barack Obama is going to change a whole lot of ppl's mind in that first debate with old man McCain. I predict he will have a 48% or higher lead going into the month of November.
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Here's part of Obama's plan. Shine the Light on Federal Contracts, Tax Breaks and Earmarks Create a Public “Contracts and Influence†Database: As president, Obama will create a "contracts and influence" database that will disclose how much federal contractors spend on lobbying, and what contracts they are getting and how well they complete them. Expose Special Interest Tax Breaks to Public Scrutiny: Barack Obama will ensure that any tax breaks for corporate recipients — or tax earmarks — are also publicly available on the Internet in an easily searchable format. End Abuse of No-Bid Contracts: Barack Obama will end abuse of no-bid contracts by requiring that nearly all contract orders over $25,000 be competitively awarded. Sunlight Before Signing: Too often bills are rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them. As president, Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days. Shine Light on Earmarks and Pork Barrel Spending: Obama's Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act will shed light on all earmarks by disclosing the name of the legislator who asked for each earmark, along with a written justification, 72 hours before they can be approved by the full Senate. Please read his whole blueprint before going and voting. It's important that we get it right this time. http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf
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We'll it's good to see here at these forums that ppl don't see it that way. Obama still holds a 6 point lead over McCain.
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No reason to get upset. I'm not upset. You asked me to provide proof that Obama declared he would debate McCain "anytime, anywhere", and I did, since my word wasn't good enough. Instead of admitting that I was right and you were wrong, I get that ^^^^^ (quoted). Bush is not doing what Obama suggested, earlier I called Obama's plan "withdrawl" but really it's a surrender to al Queda. The end game was always to have a secure Iraq that could defend it's self before leaving. It's happening, that is what's going on, and I for one am thrilled about it. But McCain won't set a deadline, he will finish and then leave, so that we never have to go back and finish at a later date. So what's it going to be WarPig, you going admit that Obama is a liar or at the very least admit Obama is afraid to debate McCain? Or sacrifice your integrity to make a political point? What are you talking about? LOL My integrity? Give me a break. I'm only admitting that Obama is smarter then Rove and all his lackeys to do shit on McCain's timeline. They will debate. That's the bottom line. You crack me up man. *Tough guy voice* Obama's scared! Look he's scared! LOL You can't seriously believe that? The Bush admin IS doing what Obama has said to do all along. Also the Iraqi government has said that they like Obama's plan and think it's more sound. I'm very happy and confident where were headed with Obama. We just need to make sure the repubs don't try and steal another one.
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Listen to what he said, not what you think he said, but what he said. "Maintain a presence" is not fighting a war as Obama has quoted him as saying. BS... You know what he said is he will fight them for a hundred years dude. Enough already. I love how you can spin all this. You got to work on the O'Riely factor or something. LOL I mean, you really want to start pulling out gems from McCain's gaffs? How bout the things he can't even get straight?
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That's fine. That's all I was asking for. I still think he's smart to NOT fall into a Rove/Bush trap with a loaded room full of McCain supporters booing him or something. I'm comfortable with the 3 or 4 debates they will have. Town Hall meetings suck anyways IMO. Don't worry, you'll see them debate.
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You sure know a lot about what Obama will do. LOL You got a crystal ball or something? We've had leaders from both parties say what Obama has suggested is right. And NOOOWww even the Bush admin is doing the same things that Obama has been saying all along. Ever heard the sang, keep your friends close to you and your enemies even closer? Obama is a smart guy and knows what he's doing. Enough of this good ol boy mentality. China owns us finically, our economy is in the craper and we are spread so thin militarily because of a ridiculous, unjust war in Iraq. ENOUGH! If this shit keeps up, you won't have to worry about a terrorist, it's going to be ME taking it to the streets!!!! Ok... I'm calm now. Sorry for the outburst. ;D
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Hog, you talk a good talk. I haven't circled around any questions. I answered you clearly. You still have yet to show me that quote? "anytime, anywhere" Obama said, he looks forward to THAT debate. He will do it on HIS timeline, not yours... McCain's or anyone elses. Period. You and I view this illegal war in Iraq very differently... as does 80% of america. We want out! Enough! Our good men and woman are dying for nothing! You know how sick and tired I am of waking in the morning to hear another 3 or 9 or 15 of our troops died today. As long as we continue to have a footprint over in the middle east, we will have ppl dying senselessly for nothing. Now if you talk about actually fighting terrorist and finding Bin over in Afganistan and Pakistan... then I'm on board. Oh, and MCain said it. Obama lied about nothing man. Here's one of those great town hall meetings where he said it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk
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Please. You really want to go there? After 8 long years of the retarded cowboy who could barely string two sentences together? Have you watched McCain speak? Hahaha!!!! I'll stick with Obama thank you.
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Hog, I don't know where you're from but america as a whole would NOT be ready to have both of those first on a ticket! You know that and I know it. So please. Obama is NOT going to have McCain dictate when and where they will debate. Period. That's political suicide, especially when you have Rove helping run your campaign. LMAO! (no telling how he'd stack that audience) That's like when Bush, opps I mean McCain kept asking Obama to come with him to Iraq. You guys really don't see that? If I follow you, then I look like I'm being lead by you and you're in charge. That ain't happening with Obama. He's the leader here and will dictate when HE wants to debate. It will happen soon enough, and McCain will get schooled by the younger, smarter candidate. I'm not a Matt Damon fan, but thought he was spot on with his assessment of Palin. It IS like a bad Disney movie.
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You guys can keep saying all you want, but facts speak louder then your words guys. ;D http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gop_convention_spin_part_ii.html http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/sep/01/drilling-down-palins-record/ http://ohmygov.com/blogs/election_2008/archive/2008/09/10/palin-records-show-she-billed-state-for-questionable-personal-expenses.aspx She and the McCain campaighn are down right lying about her record. You all are drinking the koolaid again.
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Please point us to this quote. He said, "I welcome that debate". And his judgment is sound on his pick. Hillary is NOT change. He IS the candidate of change. It would be too much of a controversial ticket to have a woman AND a african american. You know that and I know it. Biden said that because of who McCain picked dude. You really don't get that? LOL Biden is an honest and upfront guy and said that knowing what everyone knows NOW. LOL As for any Clinton controversy... I don't see it. Obama does need them, as any candidate would on the Dem side. The Clintons ARE the Dem party right now. Hillary is not the right choice and you have proven the Repub thinking and why McCain picked Palin. You think someone should be picked cause it will get you elected. Obama wants the right person. Big difference there my friend. I prefer this video. It sums it up best! LOL It's like a bad Disney movie!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!
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First, Obama does have more experience then Palin and he was just confirming that. No debate there. Secondly, to my knowledge of what I've seen or read Obama never said "anytime, any place"... but that he looks forward to that debate. Obama is smart and is not going to let McCain dictate what he does or where he debates. Why would you go to a stacked audience Rove event that would favor McCain. He is doing exactly what he should. Go to the non-partisan debates with the sponsored debates. And lastly, I don't believe the Dems are afraid of anything the repubs could possibly give them. Quite the opposite, McCain's campaign keeps throwing non-issues out there and does not want to talk about what really matters right now in America. They are afraid if America starts thinking about how we got into this mess we are in right now... Johnny Mac is dead in the water.
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