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  1. Playerdown
    Area 19
  2. Playerdown
    EWWWW!
  3. Playerdown
    AJhutch69, from SHO, is an architect and does cad drawings for a living. Unless you're looking for someone to make drawings of COD4 maps, then you're probably not gonna get help. LOL
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    Bad: The first bit of actual evidence brought up is the lack of stars in the pictures taken by the Apollo astronauts from the surface of the Moon. Without air, the sky is black, so where are the stars? Good: The stars are there! They're just too faint to be seen. This is usually the first thing HBs talk about when discussing the Hoax. That amazes me, as it's the silliest assertion they make. However, it appeals to our common sense: when the sky is black here on Earth, we see stars. Therefore we should see them from the Moon as well. I'll say this here now, and return to it many times: the Moon is not the Earth. Conditions there are weird, and our common sense is likely to fail us. The Moon's surface is airless. On Earth, our thick atmosphere scatters sunlight, spreading it out over the whole sky. That's why the sky is bright during the day. Without sunlight, the air is dark at night, allowing us to see stars. On the Moon, the lack of air means that the sky is dark. Even when the Sun is high off the horizon during full day, the sky near it will be black. If you were standing on the Moon, you would indeed see stars, even during the day. So why aren't they in the Apollo pictures? Pretend for a moment you are an astronaut on the surface of the Moon. You want to take a picture of your fellow space traveler. The Sun is low off the horizon, since all the lunar landings were done at local morning. How do you set your camera? The lunar landscape is brightly lit by the Sun, of course, and your friend is wearing a white spacesuit also brilliantly lit by the Sun. To take a picture of a bright object with a bright background, you need to set the exposure time to be fast, and close down the aperture setting too; that's like the pupil in your eye constricting to let less light in when you walk outside on a sunny day. So the picture you take is set for bright objects. Stars are faint objects! In the fast exposure, they simply do not have time to register on the film. It has nothing to do with the sky being black or the lack of air, it's just a matter of exposure time. If you were to go outside here on Earth on the darkest night imaginable and take a picture with the exact same camera settings the astronauts used, you won't see any stars! It's that simple. Remember, this the usually the first and strongest argument the HBs use, and it was that easy to show wrong. Their arguments get worse from here.
  5. Playerdown
    Or sirhan sirhan. Oh wait. Nm http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Assassin
  6. Playerdown
    Sorry i can't resist.
  7. Playerdown
    I believe the one you are thinking about was Apollo 11. Don't quote me. I'm just guessing. Ha, i quoted you! Apollo 1 in 1967 caught fire on the launch pad killing the astronauts. And are you talking about "The Dead Milkmen" album corrupt?
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    Apollo 13 was supposed to be a moon landing, but they did have an explosion which cancelled the landing. They returned to earth safe tho.
  9. Playerdown
    We'll all be getting visits by the men in black soon.
  10. Playerdown
    Voyager is not a manned spacecraft. Apollo 13 i believe was the farthest manned. 248,655 miles.
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    upon much more research, there's a lot of weird shit going on in India lately. Strange things are afoot at the circle K. (which is probably owned by an Indian) Probably takes more time to study these things. There hasn't been any data supporting or debunking the theory for a while now.
  12. Playerdown
    So true, so true. As far as alien life is concerned, it's already been proven by NASA. Let the games begin...... Now you believe NASA? I'm really confused now. LOL
  13. Playerdown
    Well except for Havoc, we're all nobodys.
  14. Playerdown
    Whoa, Whoa, Tool, That was not an attack on you personally. I didn't mean for it to come off that way. My apologies. It was for the general consensus of non-believers. The main people responsible for the whole "hoax" theory are pretty much certified nobody's. John Kaysing Dave Percy Ralph Rene Bart Sibrel I'm not in a pissing match, just trying to explain where i'm thinking from.
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    So now were down to your guy is callin my guy a fag. We may need to move on to Aliens.... ;D PS, my guy thinks your guy is a fag too. All i know is: I didn't study rocket science, physics, geology or anything closely related to any of these. I do know that NASA employs some of the brightest minds in the world. All of which have great credentials, unlike your fag, i can only form a conclusion based on scientific data that i read about. To think that not one person involved in an alleged hoax, from what would have to be a cast of thousands to pull it off, would come forward and say "Yea you got me". There would have to be producers, directors, wardrobe, lighting, stage hands, etc. Lots of people. And to call the astronauts, who served their country with honor and dignity ,a bunch of lying fakes is just nuts.
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    To reach the Moon astronauts would have to travel through the Van Allen Radiation Belts, resulting in lethal doses of radiation. This is a claim the hoax advocates often make, but it is a gross exaggeration and simply not supported by the data. Radiation was a definite concern for NASA before the first space flights, but they invested a great deal of research into it and determined the hazard was minimal. It took Apollo about an hour to pass through the radiation belts - once on the outbound trip and once again on the return trip. The total radiation dose received by the astronauts was about one rem. A person will experience radiation sickness with a dose of 100-200 rem, and death with a dose of 300+ rem. Clearly the doses received fall well below anything that could be considered a significant risk. Despite claims that "lead shielding meters thick would have been needed", NASA found it unnecessary to provide any special radiation shielding. The hoax advocates also make the mistake of limiting themselves to two-dimensional thinking. The Van Allen Radiation Belts consist of a doughnut-shaped region centered around the Earth's magnetic equator, and spanning about 40 degrees of latitude - 20 degrees above and below the magnetic equator. The translunar trajectories followed by the Apollo spacecraft were typically inclined about 30 degrees to the Earth's equator, therefore Apollo bypassed all but the edges of the radiation belts. For more information, please see The Van Allen Belts and Travel to the Moon and Radiation Plan for the Apollo Lunar Mission. Intense radiation from solar flares would have killed the Apollo astronauts in route to the Moon and back. Solar flares were a NASA concern as well, but the radiation doses claimed by the hoax advocates are again greatly exaggerated and unsubstantiated. Although low-intensity solar flares are common, they posed no real threat to the astronauts. High-intensity solar flares could have endangered the astronauts' health, but these large eruptions are infrequent. Furthermore, there are statistical methods for determining the likelihood of a major flare during a given time interval. If NASA found an unacceptably high probability for a solar flare event during a scheduled flight, the mission would have been postponed. No large solar flares occurred during the Apollo missions and typical radiation doses received by the astronauts was very low. For more information, please see Radiation Plan for the Apollo Lunar Mission
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    Bad: In the pictures taken of the lunar lander by the astronauts, the TV show continues, there is no blast crater. A rocket capable of landing on the Moon should have burned out a huge crater on the surface, yet there is nothing there. Good: When someone driving a car pulls into a parking spot, do they do it at 100 kilometers per hour? Of course not. They slow down first, easing off the accelerator. The astronauts did the same thing. Sure, the rocket on the lander was capable of 10,000 pounds of thrust, but they had a throttle. They fired the rocket hard to deorbit and slow enough to land on the Moon, but they didn't need to thrust that hard as they approached the lunar surface; they throttled down to about 3000 pounds of thrust. Now here comes a little bit of math: the engine nozzle was about 54 inches across (from the Encyclopaedia Astronautica), which means it had an area of 2300 square inches. That in turn means that the thrust generated a pressure of only about 1.5 pounds per square inch! That's not a lot of pressure. Moreover, in a vacuum, the exhaust from a rocket spreads out very rapidly. On Earth, the air in our atmosphere constrains the thrust of a rocket into a narrow column, which is why you get long flames and columns of smoke from the back of a rocket. In a vacuum, no air means the exhaust spreads out even more, lowering the pressure. That's why there's no blast crater! Three thousand pounds of thrust sounds like a lot, but it was so spread out it was actually rather gentle. [Note added December 6, 2001: Originally in this section I said that the engines also cut off early, before the moment of touchdown, to prevent dust from getting blown around and disturbing the astronauts' view of the surface. This was an incorrect assertion; it was known that dust would blow around before the missions were launched, and steps were taken to make sure the astronauts knew their height above the surface. Anyway, the incorrect section has been removed.]
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    Bad: A big staple of the HBs is the claim that radiation in the van Allen Belts and in deep space would have killed the astronauts in minutes. They interview a Russian cosmonaut involved in the USSR Moon program, who says that they were worried about going in to the unknowns of space, and suspected that radiation would have penetrated the hull of the spacecraft. Good: Kaysing's exact words in the program are ``Any human being traveling through the van Allen belt would have been rendered either extremely ill or actually killed by the radiation within a short time thereof.'' This is complete and utter nonsense. The van Allen belts are regions above the Earth's surface where the Earth's magnetic field has trapped particles of the solar wind. An unprotected man would indeed get a lethal dose of radiation, if he stayed there long enough. Actually, the spaceship traveled through the belts pretty quickly, getting past them in an hour or so. There simply wasn't enough time to get a lethal dose, and, as a matter of fact, the metal hull of the spaceship did indeed block most of the radiation. For a detailed explanation of all this, my fellow Mad Scientist William Wheaton has a page with the technical data about the doses received by the astronauts. Another excellent page about this, that also gives a history of NASA radiation testing, is from the Biomedical Results of Apollo site. An interesting read! It was also disingenuous of the program to quote the Russian cosmonaut as well. Of course they were worried about radiation before men had gone into the van Allen belts! But tests done by NASA showed that it was possible to not only survive such a passage, but to not even get harmed much by it. It looks to me like another case of convenient editing by the producers of the program.
  19. Playerdown
    The next argument presented on the show deals with the lunar dust. As the lander descended, we clearly see dust getting blown away by the rocket. The exhaust should have blown all the dust away, yet we can clearly see the astronauts' footprints in the dust mere meters from the lander. Obviously, when NASA faked this they messed it up. Once again, the weird alien environment of the Moon comes to play. Imagine taking a bag of flour and dumping it onto your kitchen floor (kids: ask your folks first!). Now bend over the pile, take a deep breath, and blow into it as hard as you can. Poof! Flour goes everywhere. Why? Because the momentum of your breath goes into the flour, which makes it move. But note that the flour goes up, and sideways, and aloft into the air. If you blow hard enough, you might see little curlicues of air lifting the flour farther than your breath alone could have, and doing so to dust well outside of where your breath actually blew. That's the heart of this problem. We are used to air helping us blow things around. The air itself is displaced by your breath, which pushed on more air, and so on. On the Earth, your breath might blow flour that was dozens of centimeters away, even though your actual breath didn't reach that far. On the Moon, there is no air. The only dust that gets blown around by the exhaust of the rocket (which, remember, isn't nearly as strong as the HBs claim) is the dust physically touched by the exhaust, or dust hit by other bits of flying dust. In the end, only the dust directly under or a bit around the rocket was blown out by the exhaust. The rest was left where it was. Ironically, the dust around the landing site was probably a bit thicker than before, since the dust blown out would have piled up there. I can't resist: another Hoax Believer argument bites the dust.
  20. Playerdown
    Gravity
  21. Playerdown
    http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/ http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm
  22. Playerdown
    Must be in the rare section, the only one you don't have. No, it's an old movie about staging the moon landing in a theatre. Good flick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hcY6LcUe7s
  23. Playerdown
    Coincidence on how you spelled Butt? I think not.
  24. Playerdown
    Never been there. I have seen Capricorn 1 tho.
  25. Playerdown
    Conspiracy theories and pot smokers..... You've opened Pandora's Box now!

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