Chili327

No' date=' [u']they[/u] would be dead by now if that happened. ;D >

Until you see how much better the box is, then the only time you will play PS3 is for Socom.

Ok lets say you are in my position (or Roosters) & it was one of the n00bs.. no one saw them & no one knows but them, & neither of them copped to it. What do you do.? - Admit guilt because your opponent says it happened. or - Wait for proof before you crucify your clanmate. I chose the latter, & am still waiting for proof ;D Dont forget Rooster mentioned something in the lobby for a reason.. But made no complaint in the rep section, because without proof, we would just be crying wolf. (Or at the least letting the admins know something fishy happened, so if more happens, it would become obvious that the possibility is more in your favor.) BUT NOT asking for a clan to be removed as if we had proof, or that we have facts.

We'll see..

He's safe on here because all the kneepads are the PS3'rs Better system. HA lol

I get that.. & i know who was in the spot you are talking about. but it was NOT M16. I cant debate anymore right now i am already late for something (http://www.rcdriftnationals.com).. I will rebut later after my FF draft.

ok well that IS a well known soft spot, but i would bet my life M16 was not only NOT in that position, but would never soft spot. (nor did he hardly ever use a sniper rifle, especially on that map) So those are NOT facts. just the name of a well known \\'arrior, & a well known soft spot.

See this is how you guys dont give the situation a fair look. Tell me how YOU know 100% it did happen.? Tell me all 8 gunners that were there & tell me exactly who got hit & from where & by who.? Otherwise you are NOT 100% just as i am.. only i am willing to tell the truth. How about you ask Comi, & you both answer these questions.? Then I Might feel better knowing all the FACTS you guys have to back up your accusations.

Thank you. ;D Bring them to me or stop talking as if YOU know 100%. because YOU dont know.. just as i dont know 100%. That is my point, it doesn't matter if someone says it happen or didn't happen. You guys threw out accusations based on heresay. NOT Proof, then try to claim that we didn't get busted because of a relationship with UF or some other BS.. NOT because there is NO Proof.! Dont you think that if there was proof on either side the clan would be removed..!? I know you THINK we cheated because someone told you, but you dont KNOW.. so dont act like you know. Dont act like it is fact, because you heard.. We all "heard" that Bigfoot got caught.. lol

The rest of you guys quit posting.. I asked for opinions on what you would do in my situtation, not to jump in & throw dirt. See this is how you guys dont give the situation a fair look. Tell me how YOU know 100% it did happen.? Tell me all 8 gunners that were there & tell me exactly who got hit & from where & by who.? Otherwise you are NOT 100% just as i am.. only i am willing to tell the truth.

I get this bent about what gunner..!? I mentioned a clan got booted for cheating but members we're still able to participate in Ronin.. I kept it simple & to the point, NOT pointing fingers at AoA then Affliction took a shot. So thats how this all got brought up again.. but why does the tention have to even be there.!? Honestly your leader is the worst at it.. he makes claims & stirs the pot full of shit so bad it makes the whole situation way worse.. Once this got started back up i was trying to explain to Affliction in a very simple & honest way. (which he said "he can respect that") but then Comi comes in & throws accusations, (stating we were caught cheating & thrown out of a tourney, which is ALL a complete lie.!) & drops a load of shit on the whole (somewhat) mature conversation that was going on.. as if we all dont know what the fight is about. lol IF you were in my shoes what would you do.? I have tried to be as fair as possible, I jhave offered you to show me where they got shot from. (we tried the window in Crucible and found you cant even shoot out of it) What else can i do..? I'm always going to protect my guys.. from shit slinging, but that doesn't seem to stop you guys from doing it.

NO.. most Socom wars are nothing like that. lol As a matter of fact that round was a fluke that happened by their mistake (except for one guy) which im sure they never made again. ;D

Actually I would like nothing more than to put this behind us.. (both clans) What would any clan member or leader do, if their clan were accused of cheating.? What do YOU do.? What can you do.? What should you do.? I am sick of getting so pissed off over a stupid war that happened over a year ago.. and would love to hear what others would do in my position. Based on how sure [AoA] seems to be that something did happen it makes me wonder about these two new-ish members we had in that war. (they had been in the clan for a few months) & they left soon after this tourney. (maybe another month or so) So those are the two i really cant say i KNOW 100% they didn't do anything. EVERYONE ELSE that was in my clan i would bet my life that nothing happened.!! In THAT situation what do you do.. Admit to cheating because the opponent says it happened.? Admit to cheating because i had two members that i couldn't trust 100% or Keep fighting with them because they are dragging our good name thru the mud based on their opinions.!? I'm not saying i know 100% that it didn't happen, but i sure as hell dont know that it did.!! So what do you do..?

Yes Saint we know.. How would you react if i called [COU] cheaters & said they should be removed from a tourney.? [AoA] Here is one video.. 7 out of 8 going down in 30 sec. lol (last one in 1 min.) http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/pbwJZDIGosI&feature=user There are others at the end, but no "Fault", only "Crucible" (Crucible: the map, not the tourney ) i'll keep looking. If you see something shady let me know.

We're spotless, yet stained..!? Go to bed JR. lol

Do you think i care. lol (i would get banned every day to keep assholes like you from dragging my clan thru the mud)

Oh man.. you are so far off its getting funny. lol - 1st off i wish i had a "site" to give free advertisement.!! - I haven't played Socom for a long time but if i remember correctly you cant even shoot thru that window (from inside the room) only GET SHOT in there. so that whole thing is not only false but the opposite of soft spotting. lol We had your rep stand right in front of that window while we tried to shoot.. not one bullt did any damage. - I have been suspended a few times for argueing with dip shits like you. trying to drag my clans name thru the mud, on false accusations. - You should stop posting on this topic.. you are painting yourself into a corner of lies. I think your clan has suffered enough already from the cheating that WAS proven. open blasting on the forums of another player... isnt that an automatic ban from the forums? It might be, but then so is this.. lol

This is why i call you liars.!!!We we're NEVER removed from any tourney, so quit making up bullshit.. You say all kinds of things about what we said & what we did, but have nothing to prove any of it. (because it is false) This where I think you misunderstood a PM from me.. In Yellow That one player was Rooster & he was mentioning it in the lobby, because we we're getting soft spotted.. and he was trying to let you know that your clan was doing it.. then you took my PM, those words from Rooster & ran with it thinking that it was some kind of admittance. when he was actually being nice & letting you know we got shot thru a soft spot by AoA. Also, as we showed your rep: Shooting thru a window is not soft spotting.. as a matter of fact you can't even shoot out from that window.! (the one in question on Fault) but you can get killed standing there so it is the opposite of a soft spot. lol Another reason i say it.. you just keep making shit up.. Tryin to make us look bad, but its all false. The Video shows NOTHING for either side.. IF i had video of [AoA] cheating you better believe i would have posted a complaint in the rep section, reporting the war. (we had no proof so we did not make any complaint, just a mention in the lobby, which you still seem to take as admittance. lol)

This where I think you misunderstood a PM from me.. In Yellow That one player was Rooster & he was mentioning it in the lobby, because we we're getting soft spotted.. and he was trying to let you know that your clan was doing it.. then you took my words, those words & ran with it thinking that it was some kind of admittance. Also, as we showed your rep: Shooting thru a window is not soft spotting.. as a matter of fact you can't even shoot out from that window.! (the one in question on Fault) but you can get killed standing there so it is the opposite of a soft spot. lol

Who's got the popcorn smiley..? I can feel it.. someone is getting suspended tonight.

It was posted for everyone to see.. Remember the one showing Rooster & AMMO throwing smoke at each other for most of the map. IF that will make you feel better i will see if Rooster or i have it. and you can see it shows absolutely nothing as far as proof for either of us. (which is why it is a waste to post) but if i have it still, i'll be glad to let you see it. I think you guys not only watched it, but i think one of your guys saved it.. I have PM's from someone stating that \\'e're fuked because they seen us cheat on the video. (which was also a lie) You are a dumb fukin LIAR.!!!\\'e have NEVER been removed from ANY tourney.!! (in any clan, on any site)

I know what the PM's say.. I wrote them. lol What gets me so mad is your inability to see this for what it is. IF I KNEW someone in my clan soft spotted i would admit it, but i am NOT going to admit to something just because our opponent says we did. (who would.?) As i stated before i cant say 100% that i know nothing happened, but no one can ever say that (including you) unless they have a video from each persons point of view for the entire match. (which no one does) So i am trying to put this behind us & let it die for good.. Tell me what you want me to do or say.? Also if their was any point to posting all of those PM's try to delete the unimportant parts & leave the important parts.. (or highlight them better) that shit is way too confusing & long to read. ;D

It was a clan rep that told me.. I told Rooster. lol So you can finally understand where i am coming from.! I cant say that you didn't get soft spotted, but i certainly cant admit to anything i dont KNOW happened. And without seeing it with my own eyes i cant say you soft spotted us either, which is why Rooster brought it up casually in the lobby, NOT in the rep section as a complaint. (complaints are for when you have proof, not a hunch. )

I never said YOU offered anything.. i said WE meaning US. [\\'] And it was offered to many not just tink, including your leader. My point was this.. The mistake that was made was that in the lobby Rooster said: "Must have been a Flood, the floor seems kinda soft" He was trying to keep things light hearted, & let it be known that we were getting soft spotted. (which one of you took as he admitted it) I understand that you feel you got soft spotted too, but NO ONE can watch all 8 of their players ALL the time. So what did you want me to do..? Admit to something YOU & [AoA] said happened.!? or Forfeit a war or drop out of a tourney because our opponent "SAID" we cheated..!? Like i said i cant watch everyone.. as a matter of fact i wasn't even in the war, but NO ONE can watch all of their guys all the time. SO ALL I EVER WANTED, WAS FOR YOU TO TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO..? (keeping the facts in mind)