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Latest poll results... ;D National Gallup Tracking Obama 50, McCain 43 Obama +7 National Rasmussen Tracking Obama 51, McCain 44 Obama +7 National Hotline/FD Tracking Obama 48, McCain 41 Obama +7 Pennsylvania Morning Call Tracking Obama 50, McCain 40 Obama +10 Minnesota Star Tribune Obama 55, McCain 37 Obama +18 Colorado Denver Post Obama 44, McCain 44 Tie Ohio Columbus Dispatch* Obama 49, McCain 42 Obama +7

Ummm... let me take this General... ;D Because this has already proven this to be false and this is the new desperate attempt by the right to discredit and character assassinate Obama. This is getting so fun watching the right squirm at the new polls coming out every day showing Johnny Mac slip further and further away. Haha!!!! God this is going to get more and more fun by the day baby!!! Here's the proof that he is in fact a US citizen. NEXT!!!!!! http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html And let me just say on a serious note here. Do you really think ANYONE in this day and age would try and run for POTUS without being a citizen...? Really? I mean, c'mon guys. I can't wait to see what you throw next at him. LMFAO! What was released was not the original birth certificate. What's the big deal about releasing your original birth certificate? Obama said he's going to be transparent with his government, and his record has prove it...... doesn't it? - When asked about his relationsip to terrorist Wiliam Ayers, Obama said "he is a guy that lives in my neighborhood". Obama didn't mention he chaired the CAC that Ayers created and ran. Didn't mention Obama launched his political career in Ayer's living room. - Obama's history at the CAC is an open book, NOT. So far only one reporter has had any success getting any information at all on Obama's time as the CAC chairman. - Obama's college records, sealed and not allowed to be look at my reputable news organizations. - Obama sat in Trinity church for 20 years, and never heard Reverend Wright say anything explosive such as "HIV was created by the U.S. government to kill people of color", "9-11 was America's chickens coming home to roost", or one of my favorites, "God bless America, no, no, no, GOD D*MNED AMERICA"? Obama claims he had no idea that Reverend Wright preached along those lines at all. - Accordng to Hawaii law, only the person the birth certificate belongs to can request the original birth certificate. Obama refuses to request it. Why even take that path? He's already has one lawsuit going on about this, from a Democratic lawyer no less. It's not like Sean Hannity is pushing this question. Why not just request the original birth certificate and put the issue to bed once and for all. Should be easy if the Hawaii birth certificate actually exists as Obama claims. Obama has no record of transparency, at all. If he can hide something from the American public, he has a record of hiding it. What's the big deal about releasing your original birth certificate? Because for any normal, un-bias person... what has been supplied is good enough. The real question here is WHY is this not good enough for YOU? Do you seriously think he's not American? REALLY? Do you think for a second that The American institution who checks these canidates out first would allow someone who is not a citizen to run? REALLY? I mean it's like the first requirement. LOL I smell nothing but desperation from your side. I'm not even going to respond to these other nonsense stories you have up there. It's desperation. You have nothing on him. You can't claim anything with the economy, people don't care too much about Iraq right now, we just had the 9 MONTH in row of job loss in this country and you want to talk about Obama's character. LMFAO! Yep, desperation my friend, that's what's left for the republican party now.

Red, they play the song: "go Johnny go!" at all his rallies. I'm not being disrespectful at all dude. Please. Believe me, I'm being a lot kinder over here then at politico.

Ummm... let me take this General... ;D Because this has already proven this to be false and this is the new desperate attempt by the right to discredit and character assassinate Obama. This is getting so fun watching the right squirm at the new polls coming out every day showing Johnny Mac slip further and further away. Haha!!!! God this is going to get more and more fun by the day baby!!! Here's the proof that he is in fact a US citizen. NEXT!!!!!! http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html And let me just say on a serious note here. Do you really think ANYONE in this day and age would try and run for POTUS without being a citizen...? Really? I mean, c'mon guys. I can't wait to see what you throw next at him. LMFAO!

Oh yeah, no doubt is was a punch now. I was only saying from that first video posted. I didn't catch the fight, so I was only going by that. It was definitely a punch. Pretty funny how a small punch like that can hit the right spot.

That was lame. He didn't take any blow IMO... he slipped and then when he was down he took a bunch of blows that he couldn't recover from. Lame. Embarrassing for him to lose to some punk with pink hair! haha!!!

Sweet. That POS is going to rot in jail now, where he belongs. I guess there is justice after all... huh? LOL

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_biden-palin_debate.html Nuff said. ;D

That is insane! I'm so glad you are ok. Did you sustain any injuries? You should go by a lottery ticket! You are one lucky man.

Friday, The news pundits are reporting what POLLS are saying. And although I'm not a big poll fan, they DO tell what people are thinking and how they feel it went. Both candidates did well for their ticket. Biden did better overall. That's not a news pundit telling you... that's the American people telling us. That's why we have polls. That's why they have normal people like you and me at these events. They ask them afterwards how they felt about it. http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/politics&id=6429313

LMAO! Once again you ARE missing the point. I'm glad you are very knowledgeable about Michigan, but not once did you address the fact that state was in play for Johnny and the repubs this year. lol You do know about "battleground" states, right? Well that was one... and Johnny conceded that. That was my point... the point that you are missing and not commenting on. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/02/mccain_pulls_out_of_michigan.html

Yeah Hog, you miss the point though. This was a state in play for him and internal polling showed him he had no shot at it now as many of the battleground states are trending towards Obama. I think Amercia needs to rethink how they have been voting and make that map ALL BLUE! These last 8 years have been the some of our darkest under Republican rule.

That's because he did. I give Palin her kudos for not giving a Katie answer. LOL That would have been a disaster. She had no answers with any depth, and kept going back to energy and her state when she didn't know the answers. How humble of her also to tell the moderator that she wasn't going to play by the rules and answer her questions or Biden's when that's why they were there! LMAO! She didn't lay out ANY plan, like Biden DID. Amazing that when ask what flaws she has... she talked about her strengths and didn't name ONE. Biden was humble enough to name a few. On a side note... McCain pulled out of Michigan all together. No tv ads, mailers, staff... etc. Pulled out completely. This is very bad for him. Michigan is a big state to have in your column. This is bigger news then this VP debate IMO. ;D

haha! That's funny. I thought she held her own. Expectations were so low that if she pretty much showed up and said nothing stupid she would be ok. lol She was so rhetorical with her answers. Kept repeating herself like in some of those Katie interviews. Over all I think Biden fared better, but she did hold her own. Best line for me was when Biden zinged her with "that IS truly the bridge to nowhere"... when talking about Johnny's health care. LMAO!

Was going to then said, screw it... here's the link. LOL This book is not about Obama btw... so the book will sell if Obama wins or not. Ifill's book, The Breakthrough, is a thought exercise on the "black political structure" of the civil rights movement, and outlines how that struggle led to today, where we're moving toward racial equality. Of course, it would be author's malpractice not to mention Barack Obama in that scenario, because he is the most visible result of that process: a black man able to run for president on a major party ticket.

I think that this one individual does NOT represent at all where I country is. I grew up in Cali and parts of LA can be pretty rough. But I just think it's a stretch Friday, to say this is a barometer of where we are. I don't disagree that we have been moving in some "not so healthy" directions over the past few years, but I don't think this jack ass means anything to it. JMO. Oh, oh... and I must say I AGREE with Hog (yay! lol) that every dumb ass in that Mickie Dees failed the "man test"!!!

This story broke in July. If there was ANY problem, they should have said something then. NOT two days before the debate. This is nothing more then an attempt at diversions. If the McCain camp truly didn't know about this... then they are really, really bad at what they do! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h29O_LOkVF8

Hog, this isn't about last word for me. I was just surprised that you took this, "I'm being attacked by you" stance. I have no problem with you and have enjoyed our banter between each other. What I took exception to was your suggestion that I somehow didn't care about our service men and women. As you can clearly see by the whole post, I was responding to you post about something that has nothing to do with the elections or this thread. I ask you what does that have to do with anything? That's not remotely close to me "dismissing" our service men and women. Again I have no problem with you and our debating. I don't believe we are headed down any "dark hole". I ask you in one of these post what you profile name is over at politico. If you like we can carry this over there, I don't mind... or just leave it all alone. Whatever you like man. No hard feelings at all bro.

It's cool. I'm good with a break. I think your timing is strange when I called you out to post the whole post and explain how I'm dismissing our troops, but hey... I'll let the people decide for themselves.

As far as we know, right now. I trust time and know it won't be kind to Bush and Co.

Ok. But I'd love to know where I resorting to negative characterizations? You did just cut and paste one part of a post to make it fit your negative characterization of me. LOL So whatever. It's been fun. Hope we might pick it up later.

Paul will definitely be missed! One of my favorite scenes with him in "Butch Cassdiy and the Sundance Kid"

Like wise Daniel. I obviously mistook your statements. My bad. Here are some links. We were the leader in bringing forth a consciousness of our environment. From the Clean Air Act to National Environmental Policy Act we were the first to lead just like in the space race. That was my only point I guess. We have been leaders here in America and we need to get back to that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Environmental_Policy_Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Air_Act

Setting aside that you walked the line of telling me I'm not intelligent, I will once again give my thoughts. I am NOT against the rich, who I prefer to call wealthy as "the rich" has always had a bad connotation. I just don't believe the poor schlep making 7$ an hour should be paying the same as someone making 200$ an hour. That's lopsided IMO. As for spending, you are absolutely correct. That needs to be brought under control. The supposed party of little government and spending cuts has managed to create the biggest government and out of control spending this country has ever seen! (ie: the Bush admin and current repub party) Clinton's tax structure DID have something to do with the surplus and budget... along with those you mentioned. Just because you view it differently doesn't mean you are smarter. I know you probably didn't mean to come off like that, but you did. I believe in helping others and our country get back on track. Going back to the tax structure of the 90's is the right thing to do. Never before in the history of America was there a tax cut when we were in a War! We are paying dearly right now for those and need to reverse them immediately. As for U.S. leading the world in reductions of C02. You really don't remember that in the 70's ? We lead the world and showed them it could be done. I'll look for the articles to show you... :-\

LOL! I held off on posting that to not start another whole debate! LOL But, true dat!