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Sorry, my memory must be failing me. Please prove that quote. You, on many occasions (I define many as more than a few, a few being 3 or 4, so "many" must be at least 5) have been critical of Obama or the Democratic party in general or specifics on this forum? If you come up with 4 critically Obama or Democratic Party previous posts in this forum, I'll cut you some slack and won't dispute it. You can go ahead and let this thread fade away without further comment. I'll be impressed if you come up with 1. I'll be completely amazed if you come up with 2. I'm going to help you out here, don't challenge me to do the same. That mean's you haven't read my posts, or just read the first sentence of my posts. I've got the higher ground, and if you push me, I'll prove it. Ball's in your pen.
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You are funny. "Bipartisian"? http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5702697 Read the article. Notice the date. The Democratic leader of the bipartisian commission told us that the report was not going to be favorable to the Republican ticket before the commission talked to a single witness. Is that fair? Make up your own mind. Also notice, and I'm not talking to WarPig, I'm talking to the rest of you. Not one word on the 14 ethics and character issues I raised on Obama. And that's not a complete list. That's just what I recalled off the top of my head. I want you people to be informed. Once you are informed, then vote for what you believe in. I'll have no complaints no matter the outcome. I believe in Democracy. I just think voters shouldn't get all their information from the candidates or biased press. We as American's deserve better. This ain't Russia after all.
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I did talk about them. I called them "crazies" didn't I? That not good enough? They called Obama a "terrorist", and I called them "crazies". I'm not sure how that's deflection or spin. I think that was pretty straight forward. But, so far, you have not said anything about "Code Pink" an Obama endorser and interupted McCain's RNC acceptance speech. Something no McCain supporter did to Obama or the DNC. Not one word from you about that. Who's "spinning" and "deflecting"? I've defended Obama on the "terrorist" charge. He's not, and I have said so. He's a socialist and I don't apologize for saying that, but he's not a terrorist. He just keeps company with one terrorist. Since you like "moral high ground" so much. It seem's I have the upper hand. You have not defended McCain on anything, you have not been critical of Obama on anything. I have critcized Obama and McCain. You have done nothing but support Obama and critcize McCain. I, unlike some people count on the American public to use their own good judgement. I think the American public want's to be informed. I think they will figure out on their own who's trying to sell them half the story and who's trying to tell them the whole story. Until you critcize Obama on a single issue WarPig, something you haven't done yet, don't impune what I say as biased. Only one of us has been critical of both candidates. And one of them isn't you. The high ground is nice, good view.... ;D
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Now that's witty! LOL
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OK, first if we can't agree that Democratic State Senator Hollis (Obama campaign contributor) telegraphed his intent in a ABC interview (not looking for the link again, I've posted it once, but will go find it again if needed) as to a unfavorable report before a single witness was interviewed, then there's not a lot to talk about. I called it "political folly" and you agreed. I'll go get the quote if I have to. Just for the sake of arguement. OK, Palin was unethical in the dealings her husband had concerning Wooten. I'm not disagreeing. However, every single legitamite concern I have brought up against Obama is a discounted smear or lie according to WarPig. I'm going to break them up into bullets so the readership can get the full value: - Ayer's is a non issue. Domestic terrorists that wishes he did more. - Rezko is a non issue. Obama campaign bundler now a convited felon for corruption. - ACORN's illegal activities that have started a FBI investigation and raids is a non issue. - Obama's ties to ACORN is a non issue. - Obama adding $975 million dollars of earmarks to legislation in just 3 years, and 2 of those years he was campaigning for President are a non issue. - Obama gets a earmark for the hospital his wie works at and her salary increases 150%. Want to talk about "ethical" and "moral high ground"? - Obama interfering with Iraq and U.S. policy's are a non issue. - Obama voting "Present" more than anything else is a non issue. - Obama won't show his original birth certificate is a non issue. He's being sued over it by a Democrat lawyer right now. - Reverened Wright and is anti American message is a non issue. - Obama's college records are sealed and that's a non issue. - Obama's history at the CAC are nearly sealed and that's a non issue. - Obama's half brother lives in a shack, Obama criticizes all of America on it's lack of charity, and Obama doesn't give his half brother a dime is a non issue. - Obama is anti gun and pro infantcide and that's a non issue. So yes, Palin was wrong for not keeping her husband under control. So far my fellow piglet, you have not been critical of Obama on ANYTHING. According to you, Obama has never done anything wrong and will never do anything wrong (I know that thanks to your input in the time capsule). I don't understand your complete and overwhelming desire to defend a person no matter what. What ever happened to "right and wrong"? Your next post will call what I just posted discredited smears that have been resolved, maybe for you the answer is "yes". For me the answer is "far from it". We know the names of each of Palin's kids. We know she played the flute in the talent portion of the beauty contest she was in. We know what colleges she attended and what she studied, and her transcripts aren't secret. We know she likes to hunt, fish, and exercise. We know her oldest daughter is pregnant out of wedlock. We know her youngest son is afflicted with Down's Syndrome. Just to name a few things. We don't know anything about Obama's time at Columbia and Harvard. Just to name one. You tell me what's wrong with this picture.
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No, I just pull all the stuff I've been posting out of my ass..... LOL While I haven't read all of the report so far, I've read some of it. At least you admit it's just political folly, and for that I commend you for having your own beliefs. Actually, I went too far with saying "nothing unethical". Her unethical behavior was not pulling back on her husband's leash according to the Democratically led commission that predicted an unfavorable report before they spoke to a single witness. However, now that you pointed my mispoken words in that post, you made me realize something. Palin is being held accountable for the actions of someone else in her life. Any guesses where I am going with this? What's good for the goose is certainly good for the gander, right? Palin is responsible for those around her, but Obama is not? I won't run down the laundry list again of corrupt, convicted, and anti American associates Obama has aligned himself with in the past. I'm more concerned with McCain backing off of legitimate issues than I am with this about Palin, matter of fact, this does not concern me at all about Palin. Just something to think about.
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My sig represents my name and clan. However, it wouldn't hurt my feelings one little bit if everyone decided to use scantly clad hot women. Nope, not a thing wrong with it at all.
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Who's squirming? The more we find out about the report, the less harmful the report is. Palin did nothing illegal, her abuse of power was not reinging in her husband. It's political folly being blown up into a bigger deal than it is. Palin has accepted the findings and is not contesting them. Obama however, has done nothing but separate himself from his past. Wright, Ayers, Flegler, Rezko and his own grandmother all tossed under the bus. Colllege records sealed. Work at CAC sealed. Ties to ACORN continue to be down played and denied. Ties to Fannie and Freddie downplayed, as well as the relationship of two Fannie and Freddie CEO's, one of which narrowly escaped prosecution for fraud. Yes, Palin didn't jerk on her husband's leash when he was doing something he shouldn't have. This is the "silver bullet"? I doubt it, and definately not squirming.
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I didn't bring up the crazies, you did. You pointed out McCain crazies, don't question me because I pointed out even crazier Obama supporters. This is the direction you took the coversation in. Don't expect me to back off just because I know the real dirt of your party. I'll talk about anything you want. Just be careful of what you want to talk about is my only advice.
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A Republican lawyer is in the lead on ACORN, so the charge is bogus? Do I have that correct? OK, the case against ACORN is bogus, and I won't mention another word. Please remember these are your rules, not mine. So using that same logic, a Democrat State Senator is in charge of the commission investigating Governor Palin. So using your logic, Governor Palin is innocent and Democratic State Senator Hollis is a lying piece of crap. I'm good with this logic. But we need one more example. A Democratic lawyer has filed a lawsuit questioning the birthplace of the Democratic Presidential Candidate Barrack Hussien Obama and has asked to see the original birth certificate. So using your logic, a Democrat questioning a Democrat must be something to consider. It's not a Republican doing the questioning. Obama must be an illegal alien. Did I miss anything? ACORN is innocent because of a Republican Lawyer? Nevermind the fact the FBI is raiding ACORN offices, CNN is saying ACORN are crooks. If a Republican lawyer is involved, it must all be crapola, so it's fair to consider if a Democratic lawyer is involved it must be true. Coming up next is a political acrobatic feat that will leave you breathless. A "flip what da hell flop". I'll spoil the ending, "it's the Republican's fault" and I'm "spinning" or something along those lines. Brace yourselves.
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Done nothing "illegal"? But you said "indict her". Come on fellow pork brother, you're harder to nail down than Obama. LOL (yes, I am actually laughing). Please don't make be drag up the quote. You are making this too easy. Exactly how many McCain supporters interupted Obama's acceptance speach at the DNC? Zero would be the answer. You want to talk about crazies? Let's start with the group that interupted McCains acceptance speach at the RNC, CODE PINK, a declared Obama supporter. Since you brought Youtube into it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmdrkmtkCw4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79nNHQxfuo&feature=related That's 5 examples, but there are many more. I'll stop there just to make the point. Want to talk about crazies? Okie Dokie. Proceed at your own risk my liberal brother in pork.
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True. But she didn't work with any terrorists. She didn't take any money from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. She will show her birth certificate. She will show her college transcripts. She doesn't have any campaign bundlers in her past that are convicted felons and currently spilling their guts to get a lighter sentence. She has no history with ACORN. She has no friends that are Palestenian terrorist group fund raisers. But yes, she did try to get a trooper fired that tasered his 10 year old stepson (something the trooper has already admitted). Shame, shame, shame on her. What the heck was she thinking? Hey Critikil, you find that legal precedent yet? I'll help. "Barry Goldwater". Find out why it was OK for him to run for President and you'l have your answer as to why it's OK for McCain to run for President.
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Yea, I saw McCain talking to the crowd today about Obama. I don't know what that's about. On the Palin thing, I'll just point out four things. From the MSNBC source my liberal friend WarPig provided: The nearly 300-page report does not recommend sanctions or a criminal investigation. And why not? If her crime was so serious to warrant a $100,000 investigation, if guilty as charged why aren't impreachment or censure proceedings recommended? But I think I know the answer. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/10/palin.investigation/index.html The bipartisan Legislative Council, which commissioned the investigation after Monegan was fired, unanimously adopted the 263-page public report after a marathon executive session Friday. About 1,000 more pages of documents compiled during the inquiry will remain confidential, the council's chairman, state Sen. Kim Elton, said. A report that is over 1,200 pages long, and "About 1,000" pages remain classified? I'm just curious I guess. But why? About 85% of a report on the firing of a state commissioner is classified? Was he hiding nuclear weapons in his office? I would prefer to know the whole truth. http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5702697 Is the McCain campaign afraid of an 'October surprise' involving vice-presidential pick Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska? "It's likely to be damaging to the Governor's administration," said Senator Hollis French, a Democrat, appointed the project manager for a bi-partisan State Senate Legislative Counsel Committee investigation of claims that Palin abused her office to get the Alaska public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, fired. State Senator Hollis said this 2 September, we are in October now. Was his mind made up from the start? Hollis predicted an "October suprise", but I'm not suprised. I'll let those reading this for themselves make up their own minds and encourage everyone to read all the links in full. After all it could have been worse, she could have been hiring ACORN, taking money from Freddie and Fannie, working with unrepentent terrorists, and have campaign bundlers that are now convicted felons for corruption and singing like a bird to get a lighter sentence. Oh, I never did get around to Tony Rezko did I? Campaign bundler for Obama, heard of him? http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/1213373,CST-NWS-sneed10good.article Sneed hears rumbles political fund-raiser/fixer Tony Rezko, who is now singing sweetly to the feds from his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, has been talking about his "dealings" with a Chicago bank, which has political connections. Stay tuned. http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/urgent-big-story-about-to-break-we-are-one-step-closer-to-rezko-giving-obama-up-to-federal-prosecutors/ The Sun Times today gave a major clue that Barack Obama will indeed go down with Tony Rezko, sooner rather than later. It looks as though Rezko is about to turn on Alexi Giannoulias, the 30-year old State Treasurer of Illinois (who was elected only because Obama backed him). Here’s where all the clues are…and then we’ll walk you through the local Chicago politics on how today’s hint by the Sun Times has us convinced, for the first time ever, that prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald could indeed send Barack Obama to jail. We need to repeat that: we never believed, until now, that Obama would go to jail for anything related to Rezko. Today, this breaking news about what Rezko is singing to the Feds about makes us reconsider all of that. At the very least, it's been a interesting election cycle. WarPig pops a vien and freaks out in 5... 4.... 3.... 2... ;D
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I hope it's a great gaming experience free of defects. The game grows on me the more I play it, still don't like the quick two action. I'm used to pushing another button to run. But the hit detection is very good and the graphics are pretty awesome. I'm just hoping the beta helped and they produce an outstanding final product.
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I found this link online, it will present you both candidates views on everything from economy, Iraq war, immigration, and healthcare to name a few. You choose which position you agree with most, and after you answer about 15-20 questions it will show you a score card as to whom you most agree with. Obama or McCain. http://abcnews.go.com/politics/MatchoMatic/fullpage?id=5542139 Enjoy.
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I already know, but would always like more info! Fox reports on ACORN involvement with Freddie and Fannie meltdown: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhQAHKxuR1Q&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/30/video-stanley-kurtz-on-obama-acorn-and-the-cra/ CNN reports on ACORN fraudulantly registered voters: CNN reports on Obama - Ayers relationship, and say someone has not been telling the whole truth:
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John Sidney McCain was not born in the United States! He was born in the "Panama Canal Zone" back in 1936. He is NOT 'NATURALLY BORN IN THE US!' So you need to remove that from your presumptions, or modify it (RESPECTFULLY, HOG! ~ With Respect! lol). Which part don't you understand? With all due respect. There's a legal precident that 40 years old that answers your question. Impress me, go find it.
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I try not to wish ill on anyone. I thought they had a interesting concept, but they depended on the gamers and forgot that for a time, and tried to assume a heavy handed approach, which of course backfired. I wish it all could have been different, the possibilities were impressive. But you reap what you sew.
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salon.com huh? Let's look at a few of the headlines from this news jauggernaught organization: "Mean girl" - Article about Palin. "Ahmadinejad's own U.S. presidential campaign" - Need I say more? "Is the U.S. putting mentally incompetent terror suspects on trial?" - Again, need I say more. "The voters are angry -- and don't know why" - Now the American public is too stupid to know why they are upset? "How do you solve a problem like Sarah Palin?" - Governor with an approval rating of 80% in her state, unless you go to MDD.com or AlaskanProgressive.com where her approval rating is 66%. Still pretty strong approval rating. And she's a problem? For whom? "Obama's grass-roots battalion vs. McCain's ragtag platoon" - uh... OK. "I find her offensive" - Yet another analytical story about Palin. What was that you were saying to me about "gall" (you call it "gull" but I know what you meant)? I mean, c'mon. salon.com? Nothing from USAToday on this subject? New York Times? Washington Post? Hell, not even MSNBC? As to troopergate, I assume you are talking about the desire of Governor Palin that a state trooper who tasered his 10 year old stepson and threatened to kill the father of the Governor be fired? That troopergate? Everyone know that Trooper Wooten is still a state trooper and was never fired or even prosecuted for some reason that escapes me, you can't spank a kid anymore but tasering them is somehow OK? That troopergate? Yes, I can't wait to see what salon.com has to say about that. You crack me up WarPig, you really do. Anyone want to know how ACORN is tied to the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meltdown?
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http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hvb0LfZQ5mY-X8PYSvYxTe3QGgdgD93LPR783 A Nevada secretary of state's office spokesman said Tuesday that investigators are looking for evidence of voter fraud at the office of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN. Anyone want to know how ACORN is tied to the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meltdown?
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I was kinda thinking the same thing.. grudge much. lol Now how about those issues for the time capsule.!! ;D I guess everyone is waiting on something....... OK Chili I pitch into your time capsule, I'm just going to put down what I predict and not justify any of it to anyone, I'm not going to argue why my predictions are what they are. If Barrack Obama is elected President during his first term: - Gas prices will match European gas prices, about $8 bucks a gallon. - Private ownership of handguns will be illegal, at the very least the attempt will be made. - Infantcide will become a nationwide abortion policy. - Partial birth abortions will become legal. - Tax increases on business' will cause company's to cut back or even move their headquarters out of the country. - All illegal aliens currently in the US will be made citizens and the borders will remain open. - Gitmo will be shut down, the prisoners released, some inside the United States. - Terrorist attacks against Americans and US interests will increase. - College attendance will not rise above the historical natural increases that coincide with a bigger population. - Welfare rolls will increase above historical increases. - US military members will be placed under UN control several times. You know, the same UN that got chased out of Rwanda by a bunch of machete carrying thugs running around and chopping people up. - We will continue to depend on foriegn oil. - Gay marraige will become national law. - Iran and Isreal will be engaged in a conflict and the US will not get involved. - The economy will recover, it alway's does. But it will take a lot longer due to the excessive tax burden on business'. - We will find out Obama was actually born in Kenya and was not eligible to run for President. There will be an attempt to amend the Constitution to allow those who are not natural born citizens to be President of the United States. If McCain is elected President, during his first term: - Will seal the southern border, and then try to make 20 million illegal aliens citizens. - Will end waterboarding in Gitmo, but the trials continue. - Will allow himself to be talked into drilling in ANWAR and other places, this will create jobs immediately. - When we start drilling, gas prices will come back down as an incentive not to drill our own oil. - Iran and Isreal won't have a conflict because everyone knows McCain would get involved. - Iraq will be stable enough that we can retrograde once the last four provinces are turned over to the Iraqi military. - McCain will work to put down some tough ethic laws on big corporations, but it won't get anywhere until Republicans have a majority in the Congress. Same thing about aboloshing earmarks. - McCain will not try to overturn Roe v Wade, but will work to outlaw infantcide. - Civil unions will become law, they just won't be called marriage. - The economy will recover, it always does. - McCain will do at least 25 things that will drive Republican's bonkers.
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Actually.... I may end up voting for Obama the way ACORN is running around committing voter fraud and wouldn't know it unless the authorities came after me for voting twice. Anyone want to guess which campaign paid ACORN $800,000 for their services? Anyone interested in what ACORN is? And why their offices are being raided by the FBI?
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A collage of the "unbiased reporting" from MSNBC..... http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e4kU2GaGqG "Hey Chris.... you got something on your nose, naw you missed it, it's brown right in the center.... a little to the left.... yea that's it, you got it. Wait! It reappeared. Let's try some industrial strength cleanser".
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WarPig, it's not like I posted a bunch of polls from a Anti Governor Palin BLOG. What I posted was from a nationally published newspaper that can be prosecuted under libel laws. I didn't report it. I just found it. And I shared it. Don't want to believe it? Then DON'T believe it. It's still a free country..... at least as long as Obama isn't elected. Then, we will all be told what to believe. Think I'm lying? Don't cheat and Google it. Who has ever heard of the Fairness Doctrine? It's real and it's on the agenda. And as soon as a Democratic Congress has cloture or at the least a majority and Demcoratic President, it's going to happen.