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No anger? You just said I was using slime ball tactics. That was pretty pointed, but throughout this conversation I have learned that when you get frustrated and can't find the answer to the things I bring up on the Obama Campaign Website, you start with negative personal characterizations. But it's OK, I know you are just doing as you were ordered to do by your Messiah. "Get in their faces and shut them up". Keep trying, it won't work. I was a career Marine. If I could handle people shooting at me, I can handle any insult a run of the mill Obamaniac can toss my way. "Next".
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Talk about angry... LOL It's not a slime ball attack. It's a informed opinion from a news story of a reputable newspaper who don't seem to feel the need to kiss Obama's feet. It's a London paper. Damn shame we have to learn about our Democratic Presidential Candidates from a foriegn newspaper. What does that say about U.S. news organizations? Slime ball? Want to talk about slimeball? The attacks on Palin's teenage daughter? The attacks on Cindy McCain who has done more charitable works than the whole Obama and Biden family's combined have? The New York Times accussing McCain of having an affair during the summer without a shred of evidence? By all means WarPig, if you have evidence to the contrary, proving that Obama does indeed provide for his less fortunate blood relatives, please post it so that the whole truth is known. I couldn't find no such evidence, so I posted the truth as I know it. Good luck with that, you're gonna need it.
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This is really poetic in a sick sort of way. Anyone remember back during the Saddleback interviews, Obama was asked what was his biggest moral failure. Obama's answer was (paraphrashing as best as I can remember, I previously posted it in this thread, you can look up exact words if you choose) "America's lack of charitable giving" was his biggest moral failure of his life. I've already introduced all of you to the half brother of Obama who lives in poverty in Kenya and doesn't get any help from his multi-millionaire half brother Barack Obama. Now I run across this: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5042571.ece Barack Obama has lived one version of the American Dream that has taken him to the steps of the White House. But a few miles from where the Democratic presidential candidate studied at Harvard, his Kenyan aunt and uncle, immigrants living in modest circumstances in Boston, have a contrasting American story. Zeituni Onyango, the aunt so affectionately described in Mr Obama’s best-selling memoir Dreams from My Father, lives in a disabled-access flat on a rundown public housing estate in South Boston. How much help does she get from her multi-millionaire nephew Barack Obama? Not one thin dime. Is Barack Obama obliged to give his family members living in poverty money? After his answer at Saddleback, YES he most certainly is. He convicted the entire United States of being not charitable enough, said it was the biggest moral failure of his life. I doubt it. Once achieving multi-millionaire status, partly by writing books about his poverty stricken family members, Barack Obama has chosen to abandon his family members. That's the biggest moral failure in his life. And he wants to redistribute U.S. citizens wealth after clutching so tightly to his own wealth? Remember, while he's President, his funds are frozen, ANY changes he makes to the tax code will not affect him while he is President. This is a measure of his true character, and it's pretty ugly.
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Obama always polls higher than his actual numbers. Especially in exit polls. If the trends in the Democratic Primaries are any indication. CNN is finally starting to report that his own "word" doesn't mean anything to Obama. MSNBC is putting Obama supporters on the spot to name a single accomplishment and they are drawing blanks. And the polls are getting closer. Not that I am big poll guy anyway. Takes too much work to really figure out what they mean. All the cross tabs and the make up of those who are polled. This year I haven't seen a poll that has asked more Republicans than Democrats, it's always been more Democrats than Republicans. The poll I listed this morning had a percentage of (working off memory, not going to go double check) 42% Democrats and 38% Republicans answering questions with 9% undecided. 9% undecided? 5 days to go and there is 1 out of every 10 likely voters still undecided? Tells me that Obama hasn't sealed the deal, or that people are looking for a reason not to vote for him. McCain is and has been a known quantity in this election, he won over those he won over the day he won the nomination. Those still undecided don't need any new information on McCain to make up their minds, they need more information on Obama to make up their minds. Plus, McCain is a moderate Republican that supports a lot of centerists and moderate Democrat ideals that drive right wing Republicans crazy, but the right wing is stuck, they are voting McCain because voting Obama is out of the question due to his extreme liberal views on everything. McCain is more appealing to the Republicans and centerists. Plus the effect of the PUMA's ("Party Unity My Ass", former Clinton supporters who think the DNC and the news media treated her unfairly) is yet to be determined, estimates have it up to 30% of PUMA's are voting McCain. 30% of 18 million votes is just over 6 million votes. If McCain wins, that's how it will be done.
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"LOL Give it up". Can you come up with something new to say? You give it up WarPig. Fact Check is a great thing when it supports your point of view, but it's all sh*t when it doesn't? That's a really mature point o view.... So it doesn't bother you that Obama was part of a African Idealogy church for 20 years, and in the last session of Congress gave U.S. taxpayer money to an Afircan nation? It doesn't bother you Obama lied about taking federal campaign funds, and has collected over $600 million dollars (that's $2 million per U.S. citizen) much of which they won't release because the law say's you don't have to if it's under $200? Well that's fine. It bothers me, it may bother other people. You asked for some legislative information, you told me to be smarter than the internet. And all you can say is "LOL Give it up". I know that's what you want me to do, "give it up". But I can't. Here's why: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/mccain_trusted_more_on_taxes_and_economy After several weeks of John McCain’s campaign attacks on Barack Obama’s tax plan and idea of “spreading the wealth aroundâ€, the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds voters trust McCain more than Obama on taxes, 47% to 45%. Two weeks ago, Obama had a one point-advantage on the issue of taxes and a month ago, he had a three-point edge. The last time McCain had the advantage on this issue was September 14, just before the collapse of Lehman Brothers started the meltdown on Wall Street (see trends). Men favor McCain by a 51% to 43% margin when it comes to taxes, while women still trust Obama more, 48% to 43% (see crosstabs). Voters now trust Obama overall on six out of ten electoral issues tracked by Rasmussen Reports. Two weeks ago, the Democrat holding the edge on seven issues. A month ago, Obama had the advantage on every issue. McCain also has gained ground as the candidate to trust on economic issues. Forty-eight percent (48%) now trust the Republican hopeful more than the Democrat while 47% hold the opposite view. This is the first time McCain has led on the issue that has hurt his campaign since September 17. One month ago, Obama held a nine-point advantage when it came to economic issues. The candidates are now tied on the issue of the War in Iraq, with each man trusted more than the other by 47% of voters. Earlier in the year, McCain held solid leads on the issue. However, two-weeks ago, Obama had a one-point edge. Men trust McCain more than Obama when it comes to Iraq, while women trust Obama. The more people learn about Obama, the less there is to like. I predict Obama's 30 minute self love video fest will back fire like the greek columns at his acceptance speach and his speach in Germany did. 5 days to go, and then the majority will decide in the only poll that matters.
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I didn't get booted or freeze up all night. That's something I guess. Was in 8v8 rooms all night though.
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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/29/ap-fact-check-obama-ad-avoids-budget-realities/ WASHINGTON -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office. Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are -- beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them: THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year." THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums. THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care." THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers. THE SPIN: "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost." THE FACTS: Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years -- and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified." THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. " THE FACTS: His proposals -- the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more -- cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged -- although not in his commercial -- that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals." So NOW the tax cuts are down to $200,000? What other CHANGE are in store of us if Obama is elected? You MIGHT get a tax cut if you make less than $200,000 a year. You MIGHT get universal health care.
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thanks, the boys in the clan hooked me up, picture and all.
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You forgot Obama also spent $975 million dollars in earmarks in that short career, and has become the second leading campaign donation recieptiant of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in the HISTORY of Congress during his short career. McCain accompishments? I just list some of those from the 110 Congress, just to keep it fair. They were both part of the 110th Congress for the same amount of time. Stand alone bills made into law: McCain’s Stand-alone Bills Passed Into Law: S.161 – Northern Arizona Land Exchange and Verde River Basin Partnership Act of 2005 A bill to provide for a land exchange in the State of Arizona between the Secretary of Agriculture and Yavapai Ranch Limited Partnership. S.1481 – Indian Land Probate Reform Technical Corrections Act of 2005 A bill to amend the Indian Land Consolidation Act to provide for probate reform. S.2464 – Fort McDowell Indian Community Water Rights Settlement Revision Act of 2006 A bill to revise a provision relating to a repayment obligation of the Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation under the Fort McDowell Indian Community Water Rights Settlement Act of 1990, and for other purposes. Obama’s Stand-alone Bills Passed Into Law: S.2125 – Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act of 2005 A bill to promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Now I want everyone to notice where the respective Senator's focus seem to be. McCain appears to be concerned with American affairs. Obama appears to be concerned with African affairs (Congo is a African country). Already "redistributing" our tax dollars around the world.....
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First thing, "America" is spelled with a capital "A". Second thing, a Columbia Professor, he must be intelligent, being a professor at a Ivy League college and all.... and an Obama supporter, when asked to name a single Obama legislative accomplishment, watch the video or read the transcript: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/10/29/scarborough-stumps-sachs-obama-accomplishments Obama supporters couldn't answer that same question back in June, and still can't. Even if you're smart enough to be a professor at a college..... Third thing, CNN has watched their ratings fall when they let their bias get out of hand, seem's they want to be considered a serious news organization again, at least one of them do... http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/F2AFA456-8273-428E-8410-D00408D7058F/
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"Fixed an issue which would cause players to be invincible. Fixed a physics issue which would cause players to occasionally "warp" around on the map." I've ran into some tough kills but no one I can't kill yet (fingers crossed....) Glad to know the "warp" thing was a server and not a ISP issue. I did that a couple of times and was wondering if it was my router or ISP. I would be in a gun fight, and then "zip" I was 50 feet away with my nose in a wall.
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Agree 100% with that sentence.
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Who used government computers illegally to violate Joe The Plumber's privacy by digging for dirt to be used in national news publications? http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/27/copy/joe28.html?adsec=politics&sid=101 The Ohio Inspector General. Why would she do such a thing? http://minx.cc/?post=276707 She's an Obama supporter. How much of an Obama supporter? http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.php?name=Jones-Kelley&state=OH&zip=&employ=&cand=&c2008=Y&sort=N&capcode=dfrqh&submit=Submit A max donor. CHANGE you can't believe....
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Palin didn't support him or disown him. Palin just didn't comment when a reporter tried to trap into an answer on Steven's who's trial was on going. As an elected official, she didn't the correct and prudent thing not commenting on a trial in progress. His trial is over, he has exercised his Constitutional rights, he's guilty, throw him in jail.
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Another news station banned from talking to the Obama campaign because their questions weren't the softballs Obama and crew don't usually get. Critikil, just one simple question: When did it become the responsibility of the government to lift people out of poverty? And one statement: This assumption that all poor people are noble and being held down by the man is ridiculous. The man didn't hold Thurgood Marshall down. Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, and Barack Obama don't seem to be held down either. All of these people got to where they are because of their own ambition and working to get to the places they have reached in their own lives. What about the crack head that smoking enough dope to make his skull explode, he deserves a handout? What about the woman on welfare squirting out kids rapid fire because you get more money for each kid while on welfare, she deserves a hand out? What about the person who's just lazy and is gaming the welfare system to just get by and get free health care just as long as he doesn't have to work for it, does he deserve a hand out? There are people on welfare who are there for reasons beyond their control, they are using it as a hand up, and once they can stand on their own two feet will withdraw themselves off welfare. For those people, I am glad we have welfare. Some people are poor because they choose to settle for it or they are too lazy to work their way out of it. There are more ways to improve your situation than I can possibly list. My last job before I started my career that led me to a more financial secure life was a night time janitor. There's nothing wrong with being a janitor, it's a honest living and it needs to be done, but I wanted a better wage for myself. So I went out and got better. Equal pay for equal work is all the Economic Justice this country needs.
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Radio interview Obama did in 2001. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/27/smells-like-socialist-spirit/ If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court. I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it I’d be o.k. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf, and that hasn’t shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that. … I’m not optimistic about bringing about major redistributive change through the courts. You know, the institution just isn’t structured that way. Just a few of the highlights. Hear ye hear ye, come now and allow government to be the parent you never had. You don't have to work hard to make a living, we will have ECONOMIC JUSTICE and will overtax the successful to be FAIR to those who aren't as successful.
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Wrong. I believe in democracy, and if my ticket loses, I won't spend the next four years whining about it. Cast your vote and be heard. If Obama wins and 49% of he country vote against him, that means he will have to be wary of the mid term elections when the power in Congress can change. When Obama goes after your firearms, come back and tell me how great he is then. When welfare rolls increase, come on back and tell me how that's good for America. When gas is $8.00 a gallon, I ride a motorcyle, live 6 miles from work, and live in the south. Come on back here and tell me how great Obama is. When all those "green" jobs in the auto industry don't land in Michigan, come on back here and explain it to me how this is good. When the company you work for has to lay you off because they gross more than $250,000 a year and can't afford you and the new taxes. Come on back and tell me how well your unemployment benefits are treating you. The great things about Presidents, whatever is done, can be undone one election away. I fix tractor trailers for a living. A crucial part of our economy. My job is secure no matter who gets elected because those trucks are going to roll no matter what. WalMart may buy all their stuff from China, but if their truck breaks down in my town they call me, because my job can't be outsourced. Is yours?
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Now I'm "condesending". WarPig, you know that's the 8th different negative characterzation you have used to describe me in this discussion. Still stuggling to make your point without name calling I see. The only poll that matters is the one that happens on 4 November. Gore was up 11 points, and Kerry was up 9 points at the same time in their elections. So what happened there? Could it be a biased press trying to supress Republican voter turnout? Could it be those being polled don't take it seriously? Could it be biased pollsters trying to raise the spirits of one block of voters over another? I don't know, I'm not a fan of polls. If I don't want to respond to a post you make or answer a question, I don't have to, this is still a free country. Don't give yourself too much credit, even if I had feelings, you wouldn't be able to hurt them.
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Attacking Obama? That's pretty funny coming from a guy who is complaining about a wardrobe that Palin doesn't even get to keep, was purchased with donated money and not federal funds. Those clothes will be donated or auctioned off, that's the law. But you failed to mention that. Then you complain about McCain's brother making a non emergency call to 911. Yea, THAT never happens... call in SWAT to handle this one. Obama shuts off a news source and refuses to do interviews with them. I tell people about it, and I am attacking Obama? Feel free to mention one news source McCain has refused to talk to. Oh, I'm sorry WarPig, I didn't know I was obliged to answer your questions. I was still waiting on an answer from the second presidential debate thread where you claimed you have been critical of Obama on several occassions, which I asked you to prove, but you have not yet done so...... So if it's all the same to you, I'll wait until you answer my question from a couple of weeks ago before I answer yours that were asked in the last couple of days.
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Obama is going to run a "open and transparent" White House? Dream on. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/obama-campaign-cuts-interviews-florida-tv-station/ Barack Obama's campaign killed all interviews with a Florida TV station after Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, faced tough and critical questions from a reporter at the Orlando station, the Orlando Sentinel reported. Here's the interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/25/comedy-gold-wftv-interviews-biden/ The message is LOUD AND CLEAR. Ask only softball questions or Obama and his crew will not allow you an interview. Force Obama or his crew to admit something they don't want to, they will research your past illegally using government resources to do so like they did to Joe the Plumber. http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/24/joe.html?sid=101 Government computers used to find information on Joe the Plumber Investigators trying to determine whether access was illegal Public records requested by The Dispatch disclose that information on Wurzelbacher's driver's license or his sport-utility vehicle was pulled from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database three times shortly after the debate. Information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department. Yes WarPig McCain's little brother did make a non emergency call to 911. At least he didn't blow up U.S. buildings like Obama's buddy Ayers did. At least he isn't a convicted felon like Obama's buddy Rezko. At least he didn't preach anti-American sentiment like Obama's buddy Wright did. At least he hasn't recieved Illinois state money in the form of earmarks like Obama's cousin did. At least he didn't get federal money in the form of a earmark like Obama's wife did. At least he didn't call for the destruction of a entire country like Obama's buddy Farakhan did.
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Obama's best friend forever calls cops to protect him from a reporter.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVgVP8ZAgZA&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/25/video-ayers-calls-the-cops-on-oreillys-producer/ Yes, that's the same William Ayers that headed up the Underground Weatherman domestic terrorist group that bomb police headquarters in New York and killed on policeman. Now calling the police to protect him from a reporter..... Ironic indeed.
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That's not true Critikil, I posted the entire link that had everything Joe Biden said. Biden said there would be a international crisis within the first 6 months of a Obama Presidency, that it would be to test Obama, that Obama will have a spine of steel, and that Democrats would have to stand firm with Obama on his reaction because it wouldn't be obvious that he was doing the right thing. Biden said 8 months ago that Obama was not qualified to be President. I suppose people twisted that out of context too? But since we have dumbed down this conversation to the point we are using paritsan edited youtube clips, here's a few : Obama flip flops on Iraq. Obama flip flops on gun rights. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R51lqpIv0iY Obama flip flops on strategic oil reserves. Obama flip flops on Cuban relations. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJDXZe6_BCI Obama flip flops on Jerusalem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP06C37o35Q Obama flip flops on missile defense. I would have walked away from this conversation a while back, but I can't without it being presumed that I was outmanuevered or worse "set straight" by those of a different opinion. I've used sources that people can verify for themselves from news organizations. But I'm done with that if this is the level this conversation has degraded to. I to can go to youtube and find biased, hateful, misleading, and creatively EDITED clips that show the worst possible light on Obama. I won't let the FACT that I know they are biased and creatively edited stop me from posting them here as something useful since this is how low the bar has been set in this conversation. I'll start with these two: Obama lies. Obama admitting that he is a muslim. Yea.... that's a lot easier than finding something in the New York Times or Washington Post.... LMAO
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Must be nice to have a compliant press as an ally: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14929.html Palin allies report rising campaign tension Joe Biden has undermined Obama on at least 3 occassions by either telling the oppoosite of Obama's stance or confirming people's belief that Obama inexperieneced to the point of being dangerous. So the Republican ticket according to Obama's news media must have the same problem. Even though Governor Palin hasn't gotten off message or contradicted McCain on the tickets stance. Be informed, think for yourself, verify, and vote.
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Good luck bro'. I wish you many notches and a safe return. May God bless you.
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Say what??????? Did Palin say something monumentally stupid like America's enemy's will test McCain if he was elected President? Wait... hold the phone.... that was Joe Biden talking about Barrack Obama.... http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html "Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy." Whew..... that was a close one. Had me worried there for a mili-second. I thought you were saying Palin was not onboard with McCain.