BIGDANIEL Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 WiZ ]Great organization you've aligned yourself with Prane. Come on WiZ, that's out of line. While I agree that people are judged by the company they keep, in the end it is their decision to do so. To have someone publicly ridicule you for it is uncalled for. There are many people and clans in this community that have aligned themselves with a clan that, since 11/07, has shown on three separate occasions that they lack HONOR and INTEGRITY. They are allowed to participate in UF tourneys. These are all personal decisions made by each person, clan, and tourney staff member based on what they know at the time. Times change. In the end peoples true colors will always show through. If DV8 is indeed involved in DISHONORABLE acts then people around them will see it for themselves. If public ridicule was the way to handle it, I'd be on here ridiculing a lot of people. Instead, I conduct myself accordingly. Knowing that one day, as has happened twice already, they will show their true colors to those who have supported them. You reap what you sow. Quote
SOTG Savage Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 BIGDANIEL ] WiZ ]Great organization you've aligned yourself with Prane. Come on WiZ, that's out of line. While I agree that people are judged by the company they keep, in the end it is their decision to do so. To have someone publicly ridicule you for it is uncalled for. There are many people and clans in this community that have aligned themselves with a clan that, since 11/07, has shown on three separate occasions that they lack HONOR and INTEGRITY. They are allowed to participate in UF tourneys. These are all personal decisions made by each person, clan, and tourney staff member based on what they know at the time. Times change. In the end peoples true colors will always show through. If DV8 is indeed involved in DISHONORABLE acts then people around them will see it for themselves. If public ridicule was the way to handle it, I'd be on here ridiculing a lot of people. Instead, I conduct myself accordingly. Knowing that one day, as has happened twice already, they will show their true colors to those who have supported them. You reap what you sow. You took the words right outa my mouth. I was going to keep my mouth shut, but this needs addressed as well. If you have a problem with an individual/clan/organization, dont bring someone into the discussion that is doing nothing against you. This is something that should have been brought up to people who mattered(admins/staff here). Not the public. If you say she erased it, chances are, nobody else saw it so there would be no reason to have to try to explain yourself. Also, if you didn't do it, you shouldnt have to explain yourself, the people who matter will know thats not something you said. So, when you say that you are not trying to "kick up dirt", that is the complete opposite of what your doing. Quote
WiZ Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Posted July 25, 2008 That might have been what SRS stated, but not me. I have no problems letting anybody know how I feel about the site and the 2... uh.... "people" running it. Prane (who is on Dv8 staff) decided to chip in, so I just let him know more about the facts. Which ironically I tried to tell these very forums over 2 months ago when we were the target of her trucker mouth. And I stand behind EVERYTHING I've said about that group over there. Unfortunately the few decent people over there get overshadowed by the jackass leadership. So, Im ok with "reaping" what comes my way. Quote
chris_pheonix7 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 what did the post say before it was altered? Quote
Guest Corruptor310 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 and the roaches crawl in........ Quote
CDBS14 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 so it all started by someone giving us a warning regarding DV8 forums and them changing posts to personal issues with them, does it matter we just shouldnt visit DV8 anymore that simple, if parne likes DV8 thats him, free will, free country he can do whatever he wants, we cant control him, same as we cant control how WiZ feels about DV8, we should just let it fie and get away from DV8 forums before it starts breaking us apart with senseless arguing. Quote
Guest CzarKingKaiser Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 I don't speak for Dv8 on this, but I know I just want to go to these forums and Dv8's and talk about games, play with new people online, and all that good stuff. Granted, I'm not really active on these forums, but it's because I don't feel welcome at all. Would you all just want us to not be here anymore? and yeah, this situation sucks and I'm not very familiar with what has happened (nor do I really want to be), but I feel like something private is now very public, and now a lot of Dv8 members feel like they can't come here because of things that didn't involve them. My reason for posting this message is to honestly ask if you guys would like to just not have any of us here any more? We certainly would like you all over at Dv8 Quote
WiZ Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Posted July 25, 2008 These aren't my forums to say so. But I would think anybody thats decent and shows respect would be welcome here. There are 3 people within Dv8 that I could care less about. But then there are a few that have PM'd me expressing their views on everything that are welcomed at our ToP BiLLiN website anytime. Kicking the dead horse is a good analogy and I'm sorry I let my personal feelings taint the true meaning of why I posted this thread. King, swing by our site anytime. Quote
Guest CzarKingKaiser Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 WiZ ]These aren't my forums to say so. But I would think anybody thats decent and shows respect would be welcome here. There are 3 people within Dv8 that I could care less about. But then there are a few that have PM'd me expressing their views on everything that are welcomed at our ToP BiLLiN website anytime. Kicking the dead horse is a good analogy and I'm sorry I let my personal feelings taint the true meaning of why I posted this thread. King, swing by our site anytime. Will do, look for me, I'll be the one holding the olive branch Quote
Chili327 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 Not my place to make any kind of call like that, but i agree with WiZ.. I see no reason that ANY respectful gamer cant still visit this site. (in the end we all just wanna play games. ) Quote
BIGDANIEL Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 Chili-Palmer ]Not my place to make any kind of call like that, but i agree with WiZ.. I see no reason that ANY respectful gamer cant still visit this site. (in the end we all just wanna play games. ) Word. Quote
BigMoneyNacku Posted July 25, 2008 Report Staff Posted July 25, 2008 Chili-Palmer ]Not my place to make any kind of call like that, but i agree with WiZ.. I see no reason that ANY respectful gamer cant still visit this site. (in the end we all just wanna play games. ) Sho Nuff.. Quote
Prolog39 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 CzarKingKaiser ] WiZ ]These aren't my forums to say so. But I would think anybody thats decent and shows respect would be welcome here. There are 3 people within Dv8 that I could care less about. But then there are a few that have PM'd me expressing their views on everything that are welcomed at our ToP BiLLiN website anytime. Kicking the dead horse is a good analogy and I'm sorry I let my personal feelings taint the true meaning of why I posted this thread. King, swing by our site anytime. Will do, look for me, I'll be the one holding the olive branch Happy Birthday, Czar! Quote
Guest deltron0 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 BigMoneyNacku ] Chili-Palmer ]Not my place to make any kind of call like that, but i agree with WiZ.. I see no reason that ANY respectful gamer cant still visit this site. (in the end we all just wanna play games. ) Sho Nuff.. Fo Sho. ;D Quote
TOW-19 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 CzarKingKaiser ]I don't speak for Dv8 on this, but I know I just want to go to these forums and Dv8's and talk about games, play with new people online, and all that good stuff. Granted, I'm not really active on these forums, but it's because I don't feel welcome at all. Would you all just want us to not be here anymore? and yeah, this situation sucks and I'm not very familiar with what has happened (nor do I really want to be), but I feel like something private is now very public, and now a lot of Dv8 members feel like they can't come here because of things that didn't involve them. My reason for posting this message is to honestly ask if you guys would like to just not have any of us here any more? We certainly would like you all over at Dv8 We haven't "banished" Dv8 members from this site or this forum. The "group" never did anything to warrant such action. It's not our way of doing things. We've NEVER been that way. If, for whatever reason, Sniper and I (the ONLY two who can ever make that call) didn't want a clan here on the UF forums, then you would no longer have an account here. Dv8 left the Riot Act tourney. On a completely different situation, but one that involved a lot of Apple's mouth, Urgent Fury severed ties with Dv8 News. That was it. We didn't say "go to hell, Dv8" or anything of the sort. If you're a good person, we like you here. If you're a gamer who likes what this forum has to offer, then you're welcomed here. If your name is AsianApple, we'd rather you not punch the keys on your keyboard, because things for some reason only end horribly if you do. I hope you continue to enjoy the forums here, Czar. If you like it here, have at it. We're kind of like a fine restaurant...you're more than welcome to come in and eat, reservations aren't always necessary, we just don't allow pets so you'll have to leave the dog at home. Take care and we'll see you around. - TOW Quote
RNG187 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 Undertow ]We're kind of like a fine restaurant...you're more than welcome to come in and eat, reservations aren't always necessary, we just don't allow pets so you'll have to leave the dog at home. this says it all, how ya doin czar? ;D Quote
RNG187 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 Pathogen- ]my quote is better than that quote. why you think its before it? ;D Quote
WiZ Posted July 26, 2008 Author Report Posted July 26, 2008 Undertow ] we just don't allow pets so you'll have to leave the dog at home. As much as it pains me to admit it...... Tow that had me laughing out loud! Quote
Guest CzarKingKaiser Posted July 26, 2008 Report Posted July 26, 2008 Undertow ] CzarKingKaiser ]I don't speak for Dv8 on this, but I know I just want to go to these forums and Dv8's and talk about games, play with new people online, and all that good stuff. Granted, I'm not really active on these forums, but it's because I don't feel welcome at all. Would you all just want us to not be here anymore? and yeah, this situation sucks and I'm not very familiar with what has happened (nor do I really want to be), but I feel like something private is now very public, and now a lot of Dv8 members feel like they can't come here because of things that didn't involve them. My reason for posting this message is to honestly ask if you guys would like to just not have any of us here any more? We certainly would like you all over at Dv8 We haven't "banished" Dv8 members from this site or this forum. The "group" never did anything to warrant such action. It's not our way of doing things. We've NEVER been that way. If, for whatever reason, Sniper and I (the ONLY two who can ever make that call) didn't want a clan here on the UF forums, then you would no longer have an account here. Dv8 left the Riot Act tourney. On a completely different situation, but one that involved a lot of Apple's mouth, Urgent Fury severed ties with Dv8 News. That was it. We didn't say "go to hell, Dv8" or anything of the sort. If you're a good person, we like you here. If you're a gamer who likes what this forum has to offer, then you're welcomed here. If your name is AsianApple, we'd rather you not punch the keys on your keyboard, because things for some reason only end horribly if you do. I hope you continue to enjoy the forums here, Czar. If you like it here, have at it. We're kind of like a fine restaurant...you're more than welcome to come in and eat, reservations aren't always necessary, we just don't allow pets so you'll have to leave the dog at home. Take care and we'll see you around. - TOW Gee, thanks. I'm glad you're not insulting or anything. Quote
DK_MaluNYMets Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 Hey I really didn't want to chime in but I just have to. Please just don't reply to this post. Lets all just move on, whether it be clans just here or else where. If you think there is going to be escalation stay away! Quote
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