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He says Viper likes male Goats. Read into that how you like. ;D

I LOVE IT! Breakout's gonna see an all-estrogen team! LOL You girls are great! I have MY hopeful vote for the winner! LOL

Yeah, that's pretty crazy, man. But I believe in that shit......getting help, physical or mental, from the "other side."

This is a GREAT story that will most likely get hacked to shreds on the silver screen.....but it DOES look kind of fun, and I haven't seen Jolie look this hot in a movie since Hackers! LOL Has a good cast with Malkovich and Hopkins as well. Check it out: http://www.beowulfmovie.com/?utm_source=MTV_com-FlashAds&utm_medium=MediaplexBanner&utm_content=MTV_com-VMA_300x250-beowulf_300x250_beo_html&utm_campaign=Beowulf

That was the BEST thing you've written in the last 10 hours. WHY do you guys KEEP posting like this? Are you TRYING to bait me?

Hey Bright Eyes......if you actually READ that post again, I'm making a mockery of ME. It's not all about you (or him, or JyK, or BeastlyT, or Led, or whoever else you need to defend here) LOL

No......they don't. Oh well. We all make mistakes. Even UF.

I would NOT expect my clan to defend ANYTHING I did while acting like a moron while drunk. And by the time I was SOBER, I would tell any one of my guys who defended me to get their head on straight. But that's neither here nor there, as I don't disrespect the tourney or my clan in that regard.

It's called a joke. It's called fun and humor. I don't know who you are, so I'll just say "so shut up" at this point. If you belong to a clan here in UF, I'm sorry, but your name doesn't make that evident.

I was WAITING for someone to say this. Sniper and I have known this for a long time. We're EASY targets because there are those here who know they can say whatever they like and try to bait us, because Sniper and I DO try to be professional. But I'm sorry, when you have guys who continually throw mud in your face, you can only wipe it off for so long before your towel gets drenched and dirty....and then all you can do is ask them to stop throwing mud. And then punch them square in the mouth if they don't. But there is NEVER a time when Sniper OR I will pop off at anyone right off the bat, unprovoked. You had best believe that we get provoked and provoked WELL before we lash out at anyone in a near "unprofessional" manner.

And no, before anyone gets antsy on the post button, there will not be ANY sarcasm in this post. Some people here just can't handle it. And no, that was not sarcasm. I apologize for showing light in regards to KingJunk's "apology" thread. I do. I did not post that to cut anyone down, but rather, to simply respond to LedPoison's insinuation that I like to "flex muscle" around here....a term I find a little strange. I THINK I, and Sniper, run this tourney well. We hear it all the time. I do not think that we are getting those compliments from individuals that UF has somehow brainwashed nor are they coming from people who are nothing but suck-ups in their lives so much that they feel they need to suck up to two guys who make a tourney for the game they like to play and, in turn, others come to join. I think it's "ok" to have some FUN on these forums all while we're trying to win a tourney and keep integrity intact while doing it. The "apology" thread from ME should be read with some humor, as I was simply responding to LedPoison's baseless accusations about flexing muscle and this and that. The whole "GB" analogies I do not get either. I do not understand why "GB" is really only uttered by a few JyK guys and basically no one else. "We're not GB." "We used to play in GB." "We were on a GB ladder." "We hate GB clans." Those are all sentences that we (as in the Clan Reps) have heard increasingly as of late, and it's always by KingJunk having to make long posts about his clan, his honor, his intentions, his motivations, his whatever. We've heard it a LOT. Don't know why, and I won't pretend to. Evidently, he feels as if he and his clan have so much more to prove than any other clan here, because we do not get those types of posts from other clans, be it from their Clan Reps or typical gunners. The thread I made was just FUN. That's all. Same as the spoof ads. Same as the jokes we make here on one another....not INTENTIONALLY non-hurtful ones. If we have some guys in JyK whose feelings are genuinely hurt, and I mean this guys, then I think you're putting TOO much on yourselves in regards to this tourney. I don't know why you guys have to continually try to convince a whole community that you're NOT GB. Sniper and I had faith that you weren't, and believe me that that was the ONLY reason your clan received an invite into our tourney. Btw....is that something that you guys have forgotten? That we INVITED you to this tourney? You ASKED to play, and Sniper and I said YES. We said YES to you coming in and playing in this tourney that we, and many others, consider great fun. We said YES to you coming in in hopes that SOMEONE from your clan will be playing Socom on a VERY large and cool tv, compliments of Sniper, UF and myself. We said YES to you playing in our house, and as in every house, we have some rules. These rules govern the game as well as the forum. Yet, for some reason, I get attacked by LedPoison in a post regarding me flexing "muscle." You call me banning one of your members from posting because he was abusing the forum RULES "flexing muscle?" You call the way you're addressing me and this tourney and others in this community as "following rules?" Good sir, and this is in NO way a threat, because that would make it personal. You have NOT seen me flex ANY muscle yet in ANY of these situations. Believe me, you have NOT. I have regarded your Clan Rep with the utmost patience. I have regarded the actions of a drunk man at my War Meeting making wrong attacks and wrong targets with the utmost patience, until he didn't ALLOW me to have anymore patience. Never has a Clan Rep showed up to a Rep meeting DRUNK. I don't CARE what his excuse was. He says "well at least I showed" as if that were some kind of favor he was granting the UF community. In that state, we would ALL have rather he didn't show, and send someone else to do it. I don't need to waste MORE of my time making this tourney work having to caretake someone who comes in drunk, slurring and basically SLOW. Y'know....like molassas in January. Please note that that was NOT sarcasm, I was just using adjectives to describe the slow english coming from his mouth that night. You, LedPoison and you, BeastlyT, are NOT Clan Reps. As far as I can see, it's for good reason, too. But you are NOT Clan Reps so you do not know what it is to report in EVERY week to plan out wars for your entire clan, NEGOTIATE with a Clan Rep of another clan to make a night work and ten finalize it. And you ESPECIALLY do not know what it is to have to MODERATE all that to make sure it all comes out correctly on the War Schedule while 6 different times are spoken for each war as they try to come to an amicable agreement. So with all THAT comprising a typical War Meeting.....YES, we would ALL appreciate it if Clan Reps did not show up slobbering DRUNK. I don't care WHAT excuse you decide to throw at the wall here, it will not stick. If you guys do not like this tourney or the way it is run, you can, by all means, leave and find that tourney out there that REALLY embodies honor, integrity, fair play, interesting interactivity and a catered website and podcast. No really, please do. Or perhaps you will do so AFTER you win a tv that we will gladly be handing over to the winners. You can head out and join the hundreds of others players out there in clans who are bitter because they either didn't get an invite once and hate UF, acted like assholes in this community and were ejected and hate UF, were found cheating and booted and now hate UF, or simply think that this tourney is created and run by two thugs and now hate UF. WHATEVER your reason, there ARE support groups out there and they're ready to welcome ALL who feel burned by UF with open arms. But I do NOT get the mentality of coming into THIS house, not your own, but THIS one....one that provides what we provide and then question every little action that we must take to preserve the sanctity of the tourney WE want to create. Not you. Not your clan. not your clan's friends. US. We create what's fun for US, and those that are interested in it are welcome to join in on the fun. To all others who are SO uncomfortable here that they start to create a hostile environment, I have to simply ask....what are you DOING here? There's FUN to be had out there......so what are you doing HERE? This is not a bully thread to have JyK leave. Regardless of what we think of a clan when they arrive, or when they're eliminated or when they win, we will always want to stand by our choices for the UF4 tourney. We WANT each and every clan to have a good time and to the best clan go the spoils.....IN WHICH WE PROVIDED. So please......for pity's sake.....STOP getting so defensive. Quit harping on everything that seems unfair to YOU. Quit barking up trees in the public section when we specifically ask you NOT to and instead, give it to your Clan Rep to address in the APPROPRIATE section. We just ask he not do it enebriated. The UF4 tourney has been going on fairly well thus far. We will NOT be letting some rotten apples disrupt the sanctity here because they're pissy about this or that. Get this through your heads. Start ENJOYING this tourney. It's here for you....it's free......it's a fairly good time. ENJOY IT. Or leave. I offer that to ANY clan out there involved with the UF tourney or planning on it. The equation is simple. But cut the bullshit. Sniper and I are EXTREMELY too busy to have to rein in childish attitudes and behavior. And clans who like to say "see you on the battlefield" as petty little warnings to one another. Try this.....try NOT saying it, and just see each other on the battefield, as the war schedule dictates. That way, no one's panties get in a bunch. Now everyone CHILL.

I guess he's feeling cross.......................again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w As posted in my other thread....though it kinda FIT here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w READ A BOOK!

You feelin' slow today, Hush?

I just wanted to give the UF community an Apology for my flexing of the muscles. I guess it did NOT stick to my head when you all said everything was going to be ok and that I was looking forward flexing my muscles that night because we was really gone show the Socom community how much of a bad ass tournament we are and we was going to win the tourney wars or at least 2 out of 3. Now the funny thing to all this come Thursday night I was going have 32+ clans signing on at about 9:00 to 9:30CST and I can only invite 9 of them and most of them may not want to wait a month to play the next tourney LoL. When 1 of my members messaged another over AIM and told him "You know Tow flexed his muscles again" he just drop his head low because he knew it was not going to end good. Don't let me paint the picture for UF we are all not hot heads like that, but I am a good guy don't get me wrong its just that my muscle flexing makes me and the tourney look like a bunch of dick heads but if you only knew me on-line and not from these forums you might say I am a cool guy. I am not saying what I did was right but unlike you guys I know where I'm coming from and I try to open your eyes to let you know its NOT your fault, it was mine. I know most of you are also like "how in the hell did Tow make it in UF POW? I will tell you how besides of the Major forum issues, I put up great muscles when they are feeling big. NOT 1 clan can say hmm its something fishy about that tourney or this guy is in a glitch or Ohh my he just Quick Sniped me. Nobody can say we have done any of them things and if they did say it I do not know about it because I'm too busy flexing. We are NOT some GB tourney thats out of control matter of fact we are NOT a gb tourney at ALL, we are a tourney that played on the GB ladder but NOT a gb TOURNEY and yes there is a difference. We played on the GB ladder like the most of you did before UF and I know most of you did and just like you we got tired of the bad ass kids there and wanted a place to chill with mature adults. Most of my muscles come from GB and some of them I introduced them to GB because they never heard of it but then UF have my players like me who flex their muscles too much! The other players who post on the forums are from GB and you really don't see them much but they post now and then and if they see something wrong they come to me before they make an post so I can flex some more muscle. I know most of you are like why in the HELL is he typing all this bull, I just want you guys to know just because we have our problems on the forums we are a good clean tourney who does not cheat or glitch to win. We came to UF looking to get good flexes and was not worried about giving away the TV but to some of my players its seems that giving away the TV is more important than having a good clean flexing and if thats the case we do not want to be apart of a community who puts all there so called honor and integrity to the side for a Television or a prime time to flex more muscle. I can not tell you guys what to do but you can not turn honor and integrity on and off like a light switch, even though I have trained my muscle to turn light switches on and off. You either have respect and mucles or you don't and I know muscle is earned and not given and I lost some of the tourney's respect here because of what was posted by 1 or 2 of my muscles or you can say you lost all respect for me coming to the clan Rep blasted but hey at least I showed up. I did not want too but I did and its not like I was talking shit and just being an ass, I was confused a bit but I knew my 1st muscle flex and I had to chose from what was left on the board on my second muscle flex but thats done and over with I am here to set my peace and I have done so all while trying not to flex too much muscle. My Apology to the entire UF community! Undertow UF creator

LOL.....it was Viper.

I'm not sure if I was supposed to take offense to this. It didn't make much sense to me.....kinda scatterbrained. But whatever.

Ok, consider yourself warned, you knew it was coming, you said your peace, now let's move on. And for your own personal note, Beastly CAN read what you wrote. He's just banned from posting. That's it, that's all, everyone. I won't be handing out warnings all night.

BeastlyT, I will make this VERY simple, because I think I've written my long post quotas for the week. 1: This at the very LEAST should have been brought to your Clan Rep to notify an admin. Not you. 2: Your disregard for the attitude requirements of this public forum is just atrocious, especially considering that UF has already banned you once for your temper around here. By the time you read this, make sure you take SPECIAL note to note #4 on my post here. 3: KingJunk came to the meeting drunk. You can say what you want about the night of football, that we're all adults, that everyone was partying. Whatever. All I know is that just about EVERYONE in that Clan Rep meeting was watching football that night, and no one was toasted like your CR. He slurred his speech, he talked slower than molasses in January and he could not nail down a proper war, always citing territories that he could either not attack or attack territories on a clan that wasn't even their territory! I have NEVER had to deal with a CR like that in four UF tours and don't plan to again. His excuse of "I'm drunk" was the same to me and EVERYONE in that meeting as saying "I'm an idiot here to waste your time." 4: BeastlyT, I'm banning you AGAIN from this forum for your attitude towards others here on this public forum. Whereas last time I banned you for a finite amount of time, this time it will be indefinite. Hopefully then, we won't HAVE to take the "good with the bad," especially since we do not HAVE to here. [*S*] Omni....this is a warning. Please do not make accusations like that on this open forum again. That was pretty baseless. This thread is being locked.

The Bears don't.................... ;D ;D ;D

Guess you haven't listened to the PODCAST yet, huh? LOL TENTATIVE dates are: Sept 16th: LAST day to sign up, invites go out. Sept 23rd: Brackets, team placement on brackets and map released on the website. Sept 30th: FIRST bracket of wars happen on this night. Again, all tentative.

Cedric Benson. NO rookie should ever EVER be paid that much.