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I'm not saying you're wrong on Samsung because I really have no idea. However as a company how can they afford to take that approach. If you open a TV brand new from the box and it doesn't work I can't imagine a company saying "tough luck".....especially when it's within it's 1 year warranty.

However most stores will. In my case i purchased the 4 year protection plan from BB to avoid dealing with the company all together. I have the a650 and he has the a630 not the a530.

Bad reviews on the a650? They're almost the same TV. The differences are the screen on the a630 is matte and the screen on the a650 is glossy. The a650 has more HDMI ports and a better contrast ratio. The a630 is a great TV but the a650 is the better of the two unless you want the matte screen. Pretty much the same TV so I'm not sure what "bad reviews" you read but those same reviews no doubt apply to the a630 as well. EDIT: Great choice though. I was going to get the a630 until I started reading about the a650 and the better contrast ratio and extra HDMI port. Well take it from me someone that researched for 2 months via consumer reports, avs forums, c-net and anywhere else I could find on the internet the TV's are identical only the a650 has 4 HDMI ports, a 50,000:1 contrast ratio and a glossy screen. The a630 has 3 HDMI, 40,000:1 and a matte screen. Good choice and enjoy your TV.

Bad reviews on the a650? They're almost the same TV. The differences are the screen on the a630 is matte and the screen on the a650 is glossy. The a650 has more HDMI ports and a better contrast ratio. The a630 is a great TV but the a650 is the better of the two unless you want the matte screen. Pretty much the same TV so I'm not sure what "bad reviews" you read but those same reviews no doubt apply to the a630 as well. EDIT: Great choice though. I was going to get the a630 until I started reading about the a650 and the better contrast ratio and extra HDMI port.

Hmmm. SO much for the "best shooter ever" tag everyone keep throwing around. Sounds like it is very similar to the first one. Yea, sounds like a lot of hype. Haze got this kinda of hype too, and fell flat after it released. However the difference between KZ2 and Haze is Haze wasn't getting good reviews from the major media outlets. IGN has already give KZ2 a 9.4 and a few other major sites have followed suit. The recent gameplay trailers look awesome so I'll wait and see how the final build comes to fruition before I pass judgment. Best Demo I've played in a while was/is F.E.A.R 2

HDMI is much better than component cables. Go to http://www.monoprice.com and order a set of 3992's they're something like 5 dollars a piece and fantastic cables. One of the biggest markups in consumer electronics is accessories and cables. I believe Best Buy for example has a 75% mark up on cables....

20 is hilarious! lol

I stopped playing the rest of 09 for a few reasons. They completely ruined the "user end" of the game. I can snag user picks like crazy but the user catch is all but gone. You can't touch pass to save your life so if you're trying to drop a ball on a cover 2 or any defense for that matter its damn near impossible to lob. The defense tips a TON of balls in via those tips ridiculous INT"s often occur AND they finally fix the lack of blocking on punts and kick offs but do to such a degree that it's too damn easy to get long ass returns. As far as Killzone 2 is concerned it looks awesome. I also played the F.E.A.R 2 demo for the first time today and MAN what a awesome Demo and sure to be a awesome game. I can't stop playing it.

We don't know that it's going to cost money, we don't know that it's even legit. I do agree on the friends list lag and the ridiculous game freezes. 2.) In my case this is my first socom, at least my first socom that I played seriously. I probably logged 10 hours total play time with 2 and because of that I'm probably more impressed with the maps than most. However even with my lack of socom gameplay prior to confrontation from what I gather the improvements applied to Desert Glory, Frostfire and Crossroads are phenomenal and ANY TIME I'm on and maps are discussed PLENTY of people 3.) routinely bring up past maps they wish Slant Six would bring back so let's not bitch about a few rehashes as long as they are done well. 4.) I guess I'm just not a doom and gloomer and while the game is flawed MOST of us are still enjoying it because of our above average clans and a great tournament site like Urgent Fury. I'm certainly a "glass half full" kind of guy and 5.) would like to believe the DLC will be free because Slant 6 wants to make good on their mistakes. If it costs money I'm going to be paying and I'm sure many will do the same. If the game is so ridiculously flawed why are so many of us still playing it? out of principle? some sort of hard lined hate? 6.) The doom and gloom belongs over at the SCEA boards.... 1.) I have stated that I still love the game and am enjoying it but at the same time I can still point out the obvious failures. I can also point out the appalling effort to reel in more money while they sold an original defective product and gave us two failed patches. 2.) I can already tell that this is your first socom from the sheer defensiveness coming from your posts. Obviously there are some things you can not and will not understand when reading our complaints because you have not experienced past games. But just because we have some complaints doesnt mean we are not enjoying the graphics and other positive things to come from /6. 3.) Dont you find it a little sad that they are asking /6 to airbrush old maps instead of making new maps. This may be because /6 failed in making their maps. Fallen might be the only good one and that has plenty of flaws as well. I personally would love to see an advancement in maps instead of playing the same maps for over 5 years. 4.) Just because I dont have my eyes closed doesnt mean that im a doom and gloomer. Once again you are most likely looking at our complaints in this light due to the fact that you are new to the series while the rest of us have seen better output on an inferior system. 5.) Wanna buy a bridge?? 6.) Adult conversation that contains two differing opinions has a place at any board.... I'm all for adult conversation and maybe came across a little ignorant in my previous post. What I meant with the "doom and gloom" comment is all people do on SCEA is bitch and moan, we all know the flaws that exist with Confrontation I don't see the point in discussing the obvious. I did play Socom 1 and 2 just not anywhere close to as often as I'm currently playing confrontation. I understand I'm out of the loop in that regard and a little more forgiving because of it. However I'm also not naive. I consider myself a pretty hardcore Madden Gamer and have grown pretty frustrated with that franchise as I'm sure you are frustrated with Confrontation so believe me I understand why you feel the way you feel. I hate this years Madden but years prior I looked past the obvious flaws because I was still enjoying the game and playing it on a daily basis. I guess what I'm saying is there isn't really a point to constantly pointing out the games flaws when we know they exist and seeing as Slant 6 is new to the series I don't think it's far fetched they would try and make things right with free DLC to make up for their obvious mistakes. I'm also argumentative but do like to think I remain civil and mature in my exchanges. I get in to it constructively with my founders about Socom and the flaws anytime it comes up while we're in game or on the message board. I am a little "socom ignorant" due to inexperience. Sorry if I came across a little brash. (lol)

We don't know that it's going to cost money, we don't know that it's even legit. I do agree on the friends list lag and the ridiculous game freezes. In my case this is my first socom, at least my first socom that I played seriously. I probably logged 10 hours total play time with 2 and because of that I'm probably more impressed with the maps than most. However even with my lack of socom gameplay prior to confrontation from what I gather the improvements applied to Desert Glory, Frostfire and Crossroads are phenomenal and ANY TIME I'm on and maps are discussed PLENTY of people routinely bring up past maps they wish Slant Six would bring back so let's not bitch about a few rehashes as long as they are done well. I guess I'm just not a doom and gloomer and while the game is flawed MOST of us are still enjoying it because of our above average clans and a great tournament site like Urgent Fury. I'm certainly a "glass half full" kind of guy and would like to believe the DLC will be free because Slant 6 wants to make good on their mistakes. If it costs money I'm going to be paying and I'm sure many will do the same. If the game is so ridiculously flawed why are so many of us still playing it? out of principle? some sort of hard lined hate? The doom and gloom belongs over at the SCEA boards....

How do we know the new content won't include the fixes proposed here? We don't and currently it's nothing more than a Rumor, reputable source or not. I found this information early this morning and posted it on my clans message board and forgot to post it here. I was excited then and I'm still kinda pumped now, it is what it is and I'll still take new maps and some other content over nothing. We all want to sit back and bitch and moan about confrontation but each and every night a good number of us are getting on our PS3's and firing it up. We continue to go back because most of us are still enjoying the game even with the flaws.

That is an honest tactic though. The water is there' date=' it's part of the map, it's not a glitch, thus it's part of the game play. That's different then killing yourself to win a war. [/quote'] lol what? How is camping the satchel in the water any different? I can't get in the water and knife you and even with Grenades it's still difficult to get the kill. Camping in the water or jumping off a cliff are no different, I actually think camping the sachel in the water is worse.

Once again it's a public room tactic and not something that would transpire in UF anyway. Non-issue. I'm moving on before I get in trouble for stirring the pot. *Hugs and kisses* for everyone.

As I said previously I would have zero issue with UF implementing a rule. You also don't get the win you just prevent the plant. If you're the last guy and you jump off the second story of the hotel in Urban Wasteland you die and the other team gets the round. It's also completely different in UF and I sincerely doubt anyone would do it anyway. The problem is playing games outside of UF when everyone is doing it and you're losing because of it. If you need to kill yourself to prevent a plant your in a bad spot anyway and not doing a good enough job of preventing plants. Either way it's a non-issue in my book and not something that would transpire in UF to being with....this is public room stuff plain and simple.

well yeah man cause its a demo not a suppression or elimination, the goal is to plant, so why kill the last guy when you can plant then kill him? So why is it any different than jumping off a cliff? Let's say my attempt at suicide is to rush in to the plant site and go for the defuse. 1 on 6 is suicide it just doesn't say it on the screen. As far as I'm concerned this is a non-issue and not something UF should enfore. If we all start nitpicking anything and everything it becomes nothing more than a glorified b.itch fest. EDIT: However and this should go without saying BUT if UF rules that it's not kosher I certainly won't complain and I doubt anyone else will.

I have ZERO issue with committing suicide, it's a tactic and one that works. Just like when one guy remains and a team knows where he/she is but won't kill him until the bomb is planted. As a few have already pointed out it's about rounds won. EDIT: People are always trying to find something to complain about and this isn't directed at the original poster but just Socom players in general. Plants and defuses are worth more points and if it's 1 guy against 6 almost always that one guy is either going to get killed by the other team or commit suicide. If one guy remains and he's rushing the plant site you want your bomb carry to plant before killing the guy no? Why is that any different than throwing yourself off a cliff to prevent a plant? I pride myself on mature play, dignity and honor and once again have ZERO issue with offing yourself if you're the last one standing.

If I were you I'd throw all that cash at a new bed, you sleep on it every night and a great nights sleep is invaluable.

I ordered two from Monoprice this morning and had them sent 2nd day air. Good cables. I did think about going to wal-mart etc this evening but the gf didn't want to go and my car hates the snow.

It gives certain shows a "soap opera" look and she doesn't care for it. I can put the 120hz on low, medium, high or off so it can definitely be adjusted. I haven't messed with the blu-ray yet because I don't have HDMI cables. I'm either going to hit Circuit City and snag one or two at a discount or just go to monoprice and pick up a few. As far as the imput lag is concerned it has something to do with the TV not being able to scale to it's native resolution and because a good number of PS3 games aren't in 1080p you get a lag effect. It's hard to describe but it gives me a headache and I can't react as quickly. The solution is "game mode" but game mode is too dark for Socom so I need to get a HDMI cable and adjust the source settings to ensure the TV reaches 1080p. Socom supports 1080p thankfully. Great, great TV that i researched plenty before buying so I know blu-ray will look amazing and once i get things situated gaming will be as well. In the midst of all my research I didn't research gaming on the ps3 specifically so my current issue is my fault. I got it WORKED out though.

Alright so far with the a650...the LCD imput lag is driving me insane. I ordered HDMI cables from Monoprice but I may run to Circuit City and see how much of a discount they have on cables with the liquidation. I found via my research that the HDMI cables cut down on the imput lag but I need to mess with the source settings so the TV can remain in it's native resolution. Thankfully socom supports 1080p. The TV is great otherwise. The gf doesn't care for the 120hz but I've been switching back and forth and I don't mind it. I've yet to watch a blu-ray or a DVD for that matter but I'll probably wait to do so until after I have the cables. Any suggestions on the imput lag? Apparently the PS3 is a little worse in this department than the 360 because of the upscaling or lack thereof.

I did get the Black Tie Protection plan so if it happens to be one of the lower grade models I'll be covered. Here is to hoping I got a good one as well. We thought about getting the 46 last minute but still went with the 40. I just didn't want to get a new entertainment center and I think the 40 is a good size for our viewing distance. The couch is about 8 feet from the entertainment center.

I don't doubt that at all about AVS forums. However as I said previously the a650 is getting very good reviews across the board from various sites. Consumer Reports in particular rated the Samsungs very high, the highest of any of the HDTV's as far as LCD is concerned at least. Amazon the same thing, as well as C-net. I actually JUST got back from Best Buy. I picked up the a650 so I'll post a initial review and then another down the road after I've had it for a while. The price did go up since yesterday believe it or not which sorta pissed me off but they will price match up to 30 days after the purchase so I expect it to go back down. It went from 1249.00 to 1399. > still a pretty good price for what you're getting though. (40 inch)

Yea I don't know anyone that has a problem with the black tie protection plan. It's even rated pretty well from outside sources. It may be different with TV's but from what I've read it's pretty solid. ???

Great info. However as far as the customer service issues I plan to just get the 4 year Breast buy protection plan which is currently at 169.99 for 4 years. You avoid the headache all together at least until year 5. Most of my research has been done via avsforum.com and consumer reports. The Sammy's I listed were at the top of all LCD's in the mid 80's out of 100. Avsforum.com is a great resource if you are looking for more information Manu besides what was provided here.

Consumer Reports as well as a few Audio/Visual forums I frequent recommend the Samsung's 9 times out of 10. You won't find a better LCD for the money when talking about the a650 or the a630. I wouldn't even look at the Toshiba. My two cents.