OBAMA OR MCCAIN WHO DO YOU CHOSE

[CDBS14]

HogWild ]

I'm certainly smarter that Vice Presidential Nominee Joe Biden, the lower half of the Obama ticket:

 

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html

 

ABC News' Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

 

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

 

And why would anyone test Obama? Inexperienced? Surrender prone? Little foriegn policy experience?

 

Sometimes I wonder if Biden even realizes he's suppossed to be supporting Obama?

 

i think he mean that during the current times the world is much un-stable and a conflict is going to arise that will probably be those kind where people take 2 sides.

[firenurhole]

McCain only because he is the better of the two, not that I am totally happy with him.

 

If Obama becomes president and with a majority of leftist democrats in Congress we are screwed big time. The left keeps promising higher taxes on businesses.

 

Lets just take one of those....they promise profit windfall taxes and cutting the tax breaks on the big Oil companies. So where will the Oil companies get money to pay even higher taxes? You think from their pockets? From the big salary of the CEO... You're wrong...they will get it from you and me and the truck drivers and trucking companies, from the airplane companies that buy jet fuel, from the train companies that buy diesel for the trains. So guess who gets screwed? Not the big oil companies... You and me.

 

See people from the left don't seem to understand...businesses don't pay taxes, just the people like you and me and your families and friends. Businesses just pass the cost of tax on to the consumers or customers they serve.

 

Everything that you seat on, eat, wear, watch, drive, play with, etc...takes energy to make and ship to you and your local store or warehouse.

 

 

We want companies to stop shipping jobs overseas, then what we should do is stop taxing businesses all together... see fairtax.org for more on that.

 

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2nd thing on my mind is health care. The left want to provide universal health care, well Obama will not come out and say that....but that is what is going to happen. See the plan is to do it little by little until it is totally government controlled. Already 1 in 3 Americans are covered with Medicaid and Medicare and another 10 million under Military Medical Programs. So the left tells us they are just going to subsidize those that don't have company medical plans. What they don't tell you and you have to figure this out, or listen to someone that has figured this out is...

 

My company subsidizes my medical, I pay some, but they pay some. And many companies do this, well if the government will subsidize, why does a company need to? Companies will just have another way to cut costs. Many and then All companies will just tell their employees (you), Hey we are going to stop subsidizing your medical because the government will take our place....

 

Also the medical costs have sky rocketed because the government has been a major cause of it. See my insurance company sits down with doctors and hospitals negotiates what costs are paid and how much. Government just dictates.....Medicaid reimburses doctors about 60 percent to 80 percent of the total cost

of care.

 

(the following numbers are just samples, not exact figures)

Let's say it cost $5000 to have a kidney removed, government tells everyone (doctors, hospitals,etc) what they will pay....say that is $3000.... so Where do they get the other $2000 from.... If you answered from someone that has private medical insurance...you are correct....

 

 

To sum it all up...

The government can not solve all our problems and usually just make matters worst. We are the greatest country in the world, not because of the Government....because of our freedoms and liberty. Why are the candidates for President not explaining Liberty and the Constitution....not to change to something our founding fathers tried to keep from happening?

 

 

 

 

[CDBS14]

Fire_N_Ur_Hole ]

McCain only because he is the better of the two, not that I am totally happy with him.

 

If Obama becomes president and with a majority of leftist democrats in Congress we are screwed big time. The left keeps promising higher taxes on businesses.

 

Lets just take one of those....they promise profit windfall taxes and cutting the tax breaks on the big Oil companies. So where will the Oil companies get money to pay even higher taxes? You think from their pockets? From the big salary of the CEO... You're wrong...they will get it from you and me and the truck drivers and trucking companies, from the airplane companies that buy jet fuel, from the train companies that buy diesel for the trains. So guess who gets screwed? Not the big oil companies... You and me.

 

See people from the left don't seem to understand...businesses don't pay taxes, just the people like you and me and your families and friends. Businesses just pass the cost of tax on to the consumers or customers they serve.

 

Everything that you seat on, eat, wear, watch, drive, play with, etc...takes energy to make and ship to you and your local store or warehouse.

 

 

We want companies to stop shipping jobs overseas, then what we should do is stop taxing businesses all together... see fairtax.org for more on that.

 

________________________________________________________________________________________

 

2nd thing on my mind is health care. The left want to provide universal health care, well Obama will not come out and say that....but that is what is going to happen. See the plan is to do it little by little until it is totally government controlled. Already 1 in 3 Americans are covered with Medicaid and Medicare and another 10 million under Military Medical Programs. So the left tells us they are just going to subsidize those that don't have company medical plans. What they don't tell you and you have to figure this out, or listen to someone that has figured this out is...

 

My company subsidizes my medical, I pay some, but they pay some. And many companies do this, well if the government will subsidize, why does a company need to? Companies will just have another way to cut costs. Many and then All companies will just tell their employees (you), Hey we are going to stop subsidizing your medical because the government will take our place....

 

Also the medical costs have sky rocketed because the government has been a major cause of it. See my insurance company sits down with doctors and hospitals negotiates what costs are paid and how much. Government just dictates.....Medicaid reimburses doctors about 60 percent to 80 percent of the total cost

of care.

 

(the following numbers are just samples, not exact figures)

Let's say it cost $5000 to have a kidney removed, government tells everyone (doctors, hospitals,etc) what they will pay....say that is $3000.... so Where do they get the other $2000 from.... If you answered from someone that has private medical insurance...you are correct....

 

 

To sum it all up...

The government can not solve all our problems and usually just make matters worst. We are the greatest country in the world, not because of the Government....because of our freedoms and liberty. Why are the candidates for President not explaining Liberty and the Constitution....not to change to something our founding fathers tried to keep from happening?

 

 

 

 

 

the world would be a better place if kidney transplants were that cheap.

[firenurhole]

I wasn't talking transplants... btw...I had a large kidney tumor last year and now only have one kidney...that is my other PS3 name... OneKidney...

 

Yes...I think my total bill came out to like $30k to remove...that was what they billed...not what the insurance paid thou

[CDBS14]

i know what you mean, my dad is an orthopedic surgeon and my mom does insurance claim reviews for a local hospital and that is one thing they always talk about that obama has a better healthcare system, not only in providing universal healthcare but by making better laws that wont allow people to sue for minimal thing. you should hear some of the stuff people sue for, things that doctors cant do nothing about and yet people sue just to try to make a quick buck and well this makes doctors increase prices, insurance companies do the same. its really sad that people would sue to make a quick buck even though that docotor just saved their leg or their life.

[WARPIG]

Republican Colin Powell endorses Obama over the weekend. Slap in the face to the GOP. LOL

 

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/20/powell.endorsement/index.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[HogWild_101st]

Remember when Governor Pallin wasn't speaking to the press? How the media and her political opponents chastised her for being in the "cone of silence", protected by her campaign from speaking off script?

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/20/politics/fromtheroad/entry4531447.shtml

 

It was less than two weeks ago when Sarah Palin astonished her traveling press corps by lifting the curtain (literally) and journeying to the back of her campaign plane to answer reporters’ questions for the first time after 40 days on the campaign trail. But the candidate who has been criticized for having a bunker mentality when it came to the national media can now lay legitimate claim to being more accessible than either Joe Biden or Barack Obama.

 

In the past two days alone, Palin has answered questions from her national press corps on three separate occasions. On Saturday, she held another plane availability, and on Sunday, she offered an impromptu press conference on the tarmac upon landing in Colorado Springs. A few minutes later, she answered even more questions from reporters during an off-the-record stop at a local ice cream shop.

 

By contrast, Biden hasn’t held a press conference in more than a month, and Obama hasn’t taken questions from his full traveling press corps since the end of September.

 

 

We know Obama hates questions from plumbers, but now his worshipers in the news media too? What can Obama and Biden possibly be afraid of? Maybe it's time for another exclusive with Kieth (recently canned for being too biased) Olbermann or Chris (thrill up the leg) Matthews. Surely Obama and Biden can handle the softball questions those two hacks will serve up.

[WARPIG]

You're silly HOg. You know we have a sang in our mutual group and that is, "congratulations for doing what you're suppose to do!" LOL You serious want to pet Caribou Barbie on the head for FINALLY doing what she's supposed to be doing? That takes the cake man! Haha!!! Keith and Matthews are still on every night dude. Don't know what your talking about being "fired"... LMAO.

 

I'd put Biden's and Obama's time with reporters against Palin and McCain any day of the week dude. They have been far more available then your ticket. Obama even went on O'riely. You think Palin or McCain are going to go on Countdown? Or Hardball? Not a chance. A bunch of wusses, I say.

 

I think this best describes McCain's campaign and his knowledge of what the hell is going on...

 

What the hell is with his tongue? LOLOL

 

I'll be going to see Obama tomorrow down in Miami. I'll be sure to take pictures and post some... just for you HOg.

 

[CDBS14]

if you take a pic of you and obama you get a huge cookie, lol.

[STREETSWEEPR1]

You're silly HOg. You know we have a sang in our mutual group and that is, "congratulations for doing what you're suppose to do!" LOL You serious want to pet Caribou Barbie on the head for FINALLY doing what she's supposed to be doing? That takes the cake man! Haha!!! Keith and Matthews are still on every night dude. Don't know what your talking about being "fired"... LMAO.

 

I'd put Biden's and Obama's time with reporters against Palin and McCain any day of the week dude. They have been far more available then your ticket. Obama even went on O'riely. You think Palin or McCain are going to go on Countdown? Or Hardball? Not a chance. A bunch of wusses, I say.

 

I think this best describes McCain's campaign and his knowledge of what the hell is going on...

 

What the hell is with his tongue? LOLOL

 

I'll be going to see Obama tomorrow down in Miami. I'll be sure to take pictures and post some... just for you HOg.

 

whats with obama got his EYES CLOSED becuase he cant look americans in the eyes cauese he is a LIAR

 

SOCIALIST LIAR WHO WITH SCREW THE COUNTRY UP MORE THEN IT IS ALREADY

 

WE ARE DOOMED ....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

 

 

LOL

[HogWild_101st]

Fired from covering election night coverage because their convention nights coverage was in last place and too biased. I posted that before, thought you read my posts?

 

And "too biased" aren't my words, that was their boss' words at MSBNC.

 

 

OK, new subject. Truthfulness. The ability to tell the truth.

 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/10/just_some_guy_from_the_neighbo.asp

 

Obama blurbed for Ayer's book while Obama was a State Senator?

 

I thought Ayers was "just a guy that lives in my nieghborhood" that Obama hardly knew? That's what Obama said in the Primary Debates and ever since he first said it.

 

Obama is proving to be a patholigical liar incapable of telling the truth.

[CritiKiL]

What cracks me up, is the fact that many of us hold the utmost respect for 'Colin Powell'. Now that he has endorsed Obama...given his 'TOP-LEVEL' exerience, expertise, capability, decisiveness, dedication and vision...we see the Bus backing up over his smashed corpse!

 

You guys crack me up! You'll discredit 'anyone' to make 'your own personal, selfish points to score your opinions.."Our Greatest Strength, is in our UNITY and in Our Diversiveness!" ~ quote: Colin Powell

 

COLIN POWELL: Now thrown under the Bus, by the GOP!

[WARPIG]

HogWild ]

Fired from covering election night coverage because their convention nights coverage was in last place and too biased. I posted that before, thought you read my posts?

 

And "too biased" aren't my words, that was their boss' words at MSBNC.

 

 

OK, new subject. Truthfulness. The ability to tell the truth.

 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/10/just_some_guy_from_the_neighbo.asp

 

Obama blurbed for Ayer's book while Obama was a State Senator?

 

I thought Ayers was "just a guy that lives in my nieghborhood" that Obama hardly knew? That's what Obama said in the Primary Debates and ever since he first said it.

 

Obama is proving to be a patholigical liar incapable of telling the truth.

 

LOL, First of all... he wasn't "fired". He still works at MSNBC. Him and Chris were taken off those shows cause they are smart and are obviously endorsing Senator Obama. LOL

 

Secondly... You can post as much factually incorrect stuff you want to Hog, but Obama gave his thoughtful, concise, detailed answer in the the last debate. You and anyone else from the repub party will NEVER be able to make anything else stick on that. You should really move on... like onto Jeremiah Wright. At least that relationship actually existed! LOL

 

Oh, this just in... nearly 6 out of 10 americans think McCain is unfairly gone negative in his bid for the white house. LOL Nice. Yeah... bring up Jeremiah Wright... PLEEEASE bring him up!

 

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/20/poll.crisis/index.html

 

 

CDBS14... I will try but being that the turnout over the weekend in St Louis was over 100 thousand!!!... LOL I don't think that will happen. I will take some picks though.

 

 

I don't think Johnny Mac has ever drawn this many ppl to one of his campaign rallies in his life! LOL

 

 

 

[RNG187]

war_pig, you cant cite CNN, it's not reputable.

[CDBS14]

dude in this day and age nothing is reputable. :-X

 

also damn thats a crapload of people, hope you get close enough to get a good pic.

[HogWild_101st]

And WarPig you can call me a liar as many times as you want. It's the only ammo you got. Anyone with an IQ above 12 can see right through it and how desperate you are to hide Obama's past as Obama is.

[WARPIG]

hahahaa!!!! The only desperation going on around here is your desperate attacks to try and "educate" ppl on Obama! LMFAO! And I have NEVER called you a liar on any thread in these forums. You have posted factually incorrect things here... but that's not being a liar, that's just not knowing any different. But just to be clear... you are NOT a lair nor have I ever called you one here.

 

 

 

[Guest SuddenRedScare]

Bong anyone?

[RNG187]

Bong anyone?

 

dude, right the fuck on brosef.

 

[WARPIG]

Bong anyone?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV8uEzGuvfc

 

I just took a hit and found this! LOL

[RNG187]

 

 

[CDBS14]

yo warpig, that vid is epic, lol. where you get that.

[WARPIG]

CDBS14 ]

yo warpig' date=' that vid is epic, lol. where you get that.

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Someone emailed to my girl. LOL Freaking hilarious!!! LOL

[CritiKiL]

Bong anyone?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV8uEzGuvfc

 

I just took a hit and found this! LOL

WarPig: You, are da man!

[SOTG Savage]

I dont get it, arent you the person who was talkin shit about the parodies and said only post up stuff that is "educated"? Interesting.....