DISCUSSION on PS3 HOME

[TOW-19]

Ok....so for the first time, I've been able to sit down and watch a pretty explanatory video on just what PS3 Home is going to be, along with a few other videos as well...and it's something I think would make for a very interesting conversation here. I'm posting this because this entire thing TRULY intrigues me. Not the program itself, but rather, the implications, both present and future, that something like this will have on our and future generations.

 

First, if you haven't seen the video yet, here it is. It is a conference presentation by Sony at E3 2007.

Check it out first before reading on:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21601.html

 

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22345.html

 

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/83461.html

 

 

 

 

Ok.....

 

Now, though I do admit this is cool, I also have some reservations about its implications on our youth, our gamers today and our overall society generations down the line. We are, essentially, creating a separate world for ourselves and I believe, once people really start getting into this, the drive to make this world "cool" may perhaps surpass our desires to make our REAL, individual worlds better.

When I think about this, it's all very red-pill/blue-pill Matrix to me.From what I've gathered from talking with people who've read up on it to checking out all the demo videos, like the one above, myself, this is what I believe are going to be facts involving PS3 Home:

> You're going to be set up with a free avatar with limited clothing options. You're going to be set up with your own living space, though it's assumed that there will be some basic package to it all. From THERE, you will have the opportunity to BUY (as in, REAL money from your credit card) accessories for yourself and your online "home" such as more clothing and fixtures for your home, like furniture, big screen tvs and pools and such.

> They have already said that the PS3 home was designed to entice retailers and advertisers. Best Buy...McDonald's....Wal-Mart.....Target.....Disneyland....practically anyone and anything, for a price, will be able to put up advertising in your virtual world. You will walk down your virtual reality and STILL see billboards for crap that you see on billboards on your way home from work on the expressway. ADVERTISING! (For a CRAZY glimpse into what corporations can and likely would do to/in nature and personal lives, read Michael Crichton's book "Next," it will seriously make you shudder for the future....or what's left in it after we knock everything else down for the sake of advertising)

> You're able to take pictures and place them in frames IN your virtual "home." You will most likely be able to watch television and, even LIKELIER, able to watch advertising COMMERCIALS on your virtual television hanging on the wall of your virtual home away from real life, though it seems to me that everyone will be standing in line to live a virtual life that's just as fettered as their real one.

 

My problem is this.

Everyone is worried about the economy. Everyone is worried about the strength (or weakness, rather) of the dollar. Everyone is concerned about how much time their children are spending on video games and how society has noticed, tested and documented the decrease in physical, family interaction with the advent of the internet and eventual online gaming. Everyone is concerned about the apparent disconnection from one another that people are seemingly more and more comfortable with as the years go on. It is almost MORE acceptable to pass someone on a sidewalk and not even glance in their direction than it is to pleasantly say "hello" as you pass each other by.

And yet, there are going to me thousands....MILLIONS of individuals who will be engaged in this virtual world called PS3 Home. Millions, as this will be a global endeavor. You will most likely be able to walk into any one of these "stores" to buy your games but EVENTUALLY (if not right off the bat) you will be able to, through your PS3 Home, be able to walk into a virtual Best Buy and buy something to be delivered to your actual home (don't worry, those with socio-phobias, Sony's working on getting materials delivered to you through your tv screen and onto your lap, I'm sure).

With the epidemic (and I think that's an appropriate word) of disassociation from one another that we're already experiencing, I think something like this might further hamper our ability to communicate with our mouths, our eyes, our touch and our PRESENCE. We're working HARDER to get FURTHER away from one another under the guise of "getting closer, more connected."

It will baffle me that people out there WILL drop money, actual money, for a pixelated television that they can hang on their pixelated wall of their pixelated PS3 Home. People WILL act as people act in real life. They WILL allow those around them dictate how they should dress, what they should buy, what they should own and how fancy their cars and houses need to be because Sam and Betty next door have a shinier car or a bigger tv or an underground pool instead of an above-ground piece of crap. Envy WILL creep into this virtual world just as much as it creeps into the lives of most human beings, because AS human beings, we're susceptible to greed and envy. We don't call them "deadly" sins for nothing. People will be spreading their meager wealth to fatten the wallets of the TRULY wealthy even further...and why? So they can have a BADASS virtual, pixelated home that will impress their pixelated friends while they could instead be using those small funds of theirs to improve their OWN "actual, real" lives?

 

More and more, we're staying INDOORS. More and more, we're withdrawing from one another, and through the thickness of technological advancement and ooh-ahh graphics and commercialism, we're learning a WHOLE NEW WAY TO LIVE.....though looking at it, it doesn't look like living at all.

 

20 years ago, most of society didn't have or know about the internet....certainly not in the way we all do now. Children today do not KNOW life without a gaming system...without online chat and texting and cell phones. Children today can't fully comprehend how we can talk about playing for HOURS outdoors with friends because we didn't want to go inside. Nowadays, all they want to do is SIT. SIT in front of their computers. SIT in front of their gaming systems. SIT and watch life roll on by.....but hey, they got that high score they can brag to their friends about or....soon.....they'll have enough allowance to buy the cool pixelated couches they can put in their mansion-like make-believe home. This is what our children have waiting for them.

 

I know some of this may read as a very nihilistic view of things, and I don't mean for it to be taken that way. I AM a gamer, myself, after all. I also try to keep a VERY balanced life between what I do online/internet-wise and what I do OUTSIDE my home. I feel it keeps me sane. I just know that something like PS3 Home will potentially create a MAJOR shift in how we further our journey in disassociating ourselves from one another physically....until we are all simply "plugged in," letting our asses rot from underneath our weight on our couches while we walk, talk, play games, interact, buy, sell and find experiences and adventure ONLINE instead of walking out of our front doors. Quotes from gamers from the above vids like "Mannn... This is where I'll be spending a good portion of my day. And good portion is something like... Say 16-18 hours :)" leads me to believe I'm not too far off in my presumptions.

 

Anyway, I'd like to see what everyone else says and thinks about this. Not particularly PS3 Home itself, but any and ALL means of "online living" that could one day remove all desire to exist offline. Don't mistake me in thinking I won't check out Home when it is available. I certainly will. Curiosity is a mean mother. However, I'm not as excited as so many others out there seem to be. I can do without it. The news, the hype, the anticipation and most likely the eventual product. I'll check it out because it will be available, but it's not something where I "can't wait" for its release. I'd been meaning to write something like this ever since I saw the trailer for it that I linked above. It intrigued me and vexed me enough to think about it this much. It was probably spurred on a few days ago when I was in a home where parents were actually PROUD to say that they could put their little Danny in front of any Wii game and in about a few hours, he'll have that game mastered "on hard." They smiled when they told me this. When I looked at him for some kind of confirmation or expression.....I didn't see any.....because he had his back square to everyone as he faced forward to his god, the TV, and mashed the buttons to Guitar Hero III to a song written 20 years before he was born....and he was playing it like it was as easy as 2 + 2.

 

[SOTG Zero]

Wow... I think you're putting way too much thought into this. I'll post more when I'm not typing on the PS3.

[TOW-19]

Wow... I think you're putting way too much thought into this. I'll post more when I'm not typing on the PS3.

 

Well, I don't think "way too much thought" can be put into anything as long as you're not waxing on conspiracy theories. And this is not a conspiracy theory. This is just a discussion and I think it's a valid one.

I'm not calling Sony or Home the devil. I'm simply speculating on where society is heading while we're handcuffed so closely to communication technology.

[SOTG Zero]

Undertow ]

Wow... I think you're putting way too much thought into this. I'll post more when I'm not typing on the PS3.

 

Well, I don't think "way too much thought" can be put into anything as long as you're not waxing on conspiracy theories. And this is not a conspiracy theory. This is just a discussion and I think it's a valid one.

I'm not calling Sony or Home the devil. I'm simply speculating on where society is heading while we're handcuffed so closely to communication technology.

 

Its just that HOME isn't that great. Gets old quick.

[Chili327]

I couldn't agree more Tow, And honestly i think the older a person the more they would agree with you also.. just as our parents thought about the "Idiot Box" we know as the TV. we are looking at kids and all people younger the same way.. it is a generation gap, that will always be there just as we cant imagine what it was like to listen to every entertaining show we ever payed any attention to was on the Radio.!?

I know it sounds crazy to us, but our parents did exactly that, they listened to the radio for their after dinner entertainment.

 

But i see it just as you do Tow.

 

Have you ever heard of Second Life.?

Second Life is an online world that has almost anything you can think of.. hookers, movie theaters, Vegas, houses, malls, etc.. you can play it for free or you can put some REAL money into an account that you can spend on things, or it can give you an allowance to use throughout the game world.

 

I too weep for the future, & wish kids we're safe to just go out & play like we could when we we're kids. :-\

Now they have to make sure they are in a safe place with reliable supervision, etc..

 

I remember just getting up on a Saturday morning pulling up my sox, & heading out for the day with friends.. didn't matter where we we're headed, just out to play..!! sometimes we ended up in the creek & made torches & followed a tunnel forever (it seemed as a 11 year old ..lol) but was a hell of a journey for the day or at least a few hours of the day. or build a sketchy ramp out of milk crates & plywood that would launch us 12+ feet in the air only to land on hard ass concrete (bad idea.. btw) It just didn't matter what you we're going out to do, you just did it. but it was always outside..!!

Unless you we're lucky enough to go to Chucky Cheese (which was the bomb back then)

 

OK I'm gonna stop now, cuz i could go on & on about childhood memories.. that have nothing to do with PS Home ;D

 

 

Kids today don't know what it is like to pay a dime to use the phone ..lol

[SOTG Zero]

I just can't see HOME becoming a "second life" for people. It doesn't have that much depth....

[TOW-19]

I just can't see HOME becoming a "second life" for people. It doesn't have that much depth....

 

Neither does a simple game like Call of Duty 4, yet there are people who log into this game for 4-7 hours a DAY each day of the week.

And this is just a one-title game.

That's just the tip of the iceberg when considering a life-instilling concept like Home to a generation of jacked-in gamers and internet-philes.

[SOTG Zero]

Undertow ]

I just can't see HOME becoming a "second life" for people. It doesn't have that much depth....

 

Neither does a simple game like Call of Duty 4, yet there are people who log into this game for 4-7 hours a DAY each day of the week.

And this is just a one-title game.

That's just the tip of the iceberg when considering a life-instilling concept like Home to a generation of jacked-in gamers and internet-philes.

 

So are we discussing HOME or eLifes in general? If HOME isn't going to do it, then there will be plenty others. Think of all those W.o.W addicts, plus the thousands of other MMORPGs that have people addicted like they provide virtual nicotine.

[TOW-19]

We're discussing Home, but I do think they're all interconnected.

Home will make sure of that.

[[RIP]saint52]

I agree I think its going to be like Second Life. SHit...I just play games, I have enough crazy shit going on in my life for another reality.

[CRAZMEX]

all I see is money for everyone but me so I will keep mine! lol

 

I know HOME isn't the first of its kind so I don't think it'll be that much of a big deal. It's a good thing it's going to be free though.

 

I can barely afford to keep my REAL home looking nice...so my PS3 HOME will probably look like a cardboard box. ;D

[Guest STR8_HATE]

I will wait and see what happens with this, I guess i really never thought of it like that, I just thought it was a place that our clan could get together and chill then go into a game... it could be the end of the RL as we know it...

[BigMoneyNacku]

Very well thought out and written Tow. As a parent of an 17 year old, I've thought about this alot. For years it was like pulling teeth to get him outside. I had to make certain times in the evening that were his only time to play video games or on the interweb. Almost every time his arguement was, "But all my friends aren't playing outside, they are playing online, so I don't have anyone to play with." The shitty part is, he wasn't lying. So alot of his outdoor activities were either him playing solo, or him and I doing something. Of course I had an obstacle that his mother would let him veg out all weekend on her visitation weekends. In the end I think I have won the battle as he is rarely sitting on the couch these days. He plays prolly as much as I do, but it's usually at night, or when he's killing time waiting to go out with his buddies.

 

 

Zero, I think you are missing the point. Maybe you are young or maybe you just don't get it. Everything that Tow brought up is a HUGE issue in my book. There is a reason that the obesity rate in the US is sickening, especially the child obesity. The reason is exactly what Tow's concerns are. If said child is in front of the TV for 12+ hours a day, when the hell do they get exercise? Not at most schools, because P.E. classes keep getting dumped across the nation. When I was in high school, it was MANDATORY to take a conditioning ed class. Now kids can get that credit by taking "alternative" classes. Our "society" is crumbling and things like Home are only going to make it worse.

 

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it is all directly related to video games and television. As Chili brought up, in some places it just isn't safe to let your kid go roaming for hours like we did. But this new wave of technology, Home, WOW, Second Life, etc is defininately adding to the growing problems. I know quite a few kids personally that have very weak or no social skills.

 

edit: BTW I think this is the best topic posted here ever, even if it is a little serious.

 

 

 

[[-VR-] Tool_Minion]

CRAZMEX ]

all I see is money for everyone but me so I will keep mine! lol

 

I know HOME isn't the first of its kind so I don't think it'll be that much of a big deal. It's a good thing it's going to be free though.

 

I can barely afford to keep my REAL home looking nice...so my PS3 HOME will probably look like a cardboard box. ;D

 

I think the argument of "not the first of it's kind" is really at the heart of what Tow is talking about. We have established real relationships and lives outside of our own states and cities with just this type of thing. I have very few real friends in life because I don't trust most people enough to let them get close. Online is different though. I have very little vested most of the time, and can feel free to share things that I might not in person, simply because you are in fact virtual in all sense of the word when playing online. I don't have to trust you, if you wrong me, I simply delete you from my friend's list an move on.

 

These are the things our children are learning, not how to hit a baseball or throw a football.

When we were kids, we would wake up Saturday, jump on our bikes, and make sure we were home before dark. My god, I got more exercise in one summer than I have my entire adult life! Nowdays, our children will actually text a friend they are in the same room with. I use chores outdoors for punishment for my kids. Now my children aren't gamers, but they spend a shit load of time on AIM and other online chat sites.

 

Sometimes you get lucky though. I have met a few good friends online who I get to meet and have real relationships with. I have a friend I met on a sport's forum who lives in San Diego. Every year he comes to KC for the Chiefs vs Chargers game, and I go to SD for the match up there. We talk all the time, and he is considered a friend. Same goes for APC. I'm new to the clan, yet I KNOW we are all friends and will have the opportunity to interact with one another in our real lives. Tow regularly sets up "meets" where APC gets together and continue the bond outside of our virtual world. These are a few positive things that have come from these online interactions that have become easier than real life.

 

I doubt there is a single one of us who couldn't admit to using online gaming as an escape from our every day lives. For younger generations this HAS become too simple, and thus they will unfortunately miss out on some things life has to offer. At the same time, it's up to us parents to make sure they experience all things in life. So as much as the power corporations that bank on us are to blame, parents I feel hold the ultimate responsibility. That's my rant, take it for what it's worth.

[HippieChik]

Well, I have mixed "emotions" on this one. If we are talking about kids, then ultimately, it's a parents job to rear their children in a way that all of the bad things of which Tow speaks does not happen. My 5 1/2 year old would play video games or watch T.V. all day if I let him, but I don't. It's that simple. When it's a nice day out, I kick his rear outside and tell him he needs to play outside. Just the other day, his little friend was over after school and they wanted to be inside playing video games and I would not let them. I MADE them play outside. After a few minutes of protest, the boys realized that I wasn't going to give in and then went out to play, had a lot of fun, and never asked to play video games the rest of the afternoon.

 

The problem is that the way we parent our children has dramatically changed. There are many times when I am left wondering who is in charge ... the parent or the child. And it seems quite often that the children are in charge. For whatever reason, parents are taking the easy way out these days and giving into their child's every whim or letting children raise themselves, resulting in alot of brats who have no respect for parents, themselves, authority, life, etc. Our values as a society are rotting and it's starting to show. For instance, I find it completely INSANE that my family is the only family that I know of (considering my close friends and family) that actually sits down to the dinner table every night for supper!?! I don't understand being so busy that families don't sit down and have supper together??

 

Ok, sorry to go off on a rant there, but you get my point. Parents need to be raising their children with a healthy balance and if parents do this, then things like Home shouldn't be a problem. When I was growing up, every night I would talk on the phone to friends. So I can see allowing your older children to use Home in place of the phone to chat with their friends. Basically what I am saying here is that I can see and be ok with a different technology being used the same way that I used the telephone when I was a kid.

 

Now being an adult who enjoys gaming, I see Home as being a really fun way to have those tacmap tourney meetings every Sunday night, or clan meetings, etc. How cool would it be to go into an Urgent Fury "lounge" with UF stuff all over the walls and lay down some serious war challenges? Sounds fun to me.

 

And I agree, you will have those people who will go over the top with this, but I think those people are going to be people who already have "issues" and if it's not Home they are obsessed over then it would be something else. I certainly don't think that a "normal" person is going to all of a sudden become a shut-in and live their life through Home.

 

Ok, I am tired of typing and my thoughts are starting to jumble, so I'll leave it at that.

[CZambrano]

"Although the service itself will be free of charge, content will be available on the PlayStation Store, such as clothes, furniture and game specific accessories, which can be purchased, but some might be available free of charge. Content can also be unlocked on specific games. Larger apartments can be purchased that come with games such as billiards or a swimming pool.[14][15]

 

Advertising will be a big part of Home, and Sony expects retailers to create their own lobbies and deploy them for commercial purposes. At first, Sony will stream advertising from their own Home servers. Later, other companies will be allowed to insert their own ads into the network, including dynamic advertising targeted at particular users.[16]

 

All transactions within PlayStation Home will use the Sony Wallet system within the PlayStation Store, although ultimately transactions will be possible without leaving Home.

 

Users will be able to make money in Home by using an auction service that will be implemented which will allow users to sell their Home assets and user-created content to other users. In a 2007 keynote speech, Phil Harrison described Home as a "Game 3.0" game.[citation needed]

 

In addition to content sold, users will be able to earn certain content based on certain milestones in a game.[17]"

 

 

I took that from wikipedia. Before anyone flames me for pasting something from a source that is user-generated, if you further investigate, that entire paragraph is an accurate description of home, generalized of course. Beta testers could maybe give you a more acute description (there are a couple on this board) but like Zero said, it gets old quick. Betas aren't that great in a sense that there are variables that you can't emulate, but that's not really my point.

 

I wanted to respond to Tow's post because I think he kind of missed the point of Home. The main focus of Home isn't to "trick out" your virtual space, but rather to have a place you can go to and call your own. If you've read above, not everything will cost money, so that shouldn't be an issue either. I'm really excited because its going to add longevity to $60 PS3 games. Games that keep going up. Home is free, so are the lobbies they are going to be adding for these games. At least thats the way its being presented. Mini games, war lobbies, whatever, its cool features like that that will make games last longer for me.

 

I guess its a discussion that could go back and forth, but Home could have a lot of advantages. I'm not really a hardcore gamer, I don't think, but I'm not aware of any set standard to define myself. It sucks that people have to chastise game companies because of lazy parents. I play video games to get my mind off of everyday things, not to live in a "pixelated world with pixelated couches" (not mocking, it's just a good quote.) I think Sony has done a couple different things to try and keep their console family-friendly, but until parents start taking, what can really be said? I don't want to make it seem like I'm not open to this discussion though. I'm interested in hearing what everyone has to say.

 

Bottom line for me, I'm really excited. If you have a positive outlook for Home, you'll probably feel the same way.

[X_-GHOST-_X]

CZ can i hang out at your apt.

[CZambrano]

X_-GHOST-_X ]

CZ can i hang out at your apt.

 

absolutely not

[BigMoneyNacku]

CZambrano ]

It sucks that people have to chastise game companies because of lazy parents.

 

Bottom line for me, I'm really excited. If you have a positive outlook for Home, you'll probably feel the same way.

 

 

You are right, it is up to the parent's. But as hippie pointed out, and I mentioned, there are too few parents that actually do give a damn. BTW Hippie, we still sit down at the DINING room table for dinner every night. ;D

 

Now I don't think anyone here is slamming the game industry over this, like someone else said, if it wasn't the game developers, someone else would have done it. I feel that it is going to contribute even more to our society falling apart. As a gamer I am eager to see it, but ultimately it'll be another babysitter for uncaring parents. Like the ones that let thier kids play COD4 with a mic and don't monitor what they are saying or what is being said around them.

 

 

It's funny you said that about friends CZ. I can count the friends I truely trust on one hand.

[[-VR-] Tool_Minion]

Bottom line for me, I'm really excited. If you have a positive outlook for Home, you'll probably feel the same way.

 

I actually look forward to it for many reasons. Convenience is probably the biggest reason. Meeting up w/ your clan in CZ's trashy little one bedroom shack situated in the heart of TJ being one of them.

 

I think the overall tone Tow set was one of companies such as Sony requiring everyone to use it's product to achieve the same level of convenience one's accustomed to. Take McDonald's. We cannot realistically argue that a double cheeseburger could be made at home for the same price. Then figure in the convenience of it being prepared for you, and wham-o! We are all a bunch of fat ass's. Same goes for the internet. All of us old enough to remember writing a paper on any subject w/o the internet are simply amazed at the information available on any given subject. The poor people over at Encyclopedia Britannica lost all fuckin hope overnight. Most kids today have no clue what an Encyclopedia even IS.

 

We now live in a society where we MUST use products to get the value of our dollar. It would be foolish of me to pay retail for an item that there is an abundance of to bid on via Ebay. It costs me 3.15 a gallon to drive to the office supply store, but if I purchase it online, they will deliver it free the next day. We are immersed in this world, and it will only grow.

 

I think the best way to summarize is this.

 

Just how far does the rabbit hole go?

[boody]

CZambrano ]

X_-GHOST-_X ]

CZ can i hang out at your apt.

 

absolutely not

HA!

[Guest [RiP] Medux]

just give ur kids sum booze and tell them 2 go out and have sum fun!! lol

 

and the generations have competley changed from 20 yrs ago to now so i dont think u can compare to back then. The amount of stuff that we have to play with/ or use (ipods,playstations ) kool stuff liek that..they didnt have really ANY of that stuff back then..so they didnt really have much of a choice to go out..i gurantee if u guys had it back then u would of been siting indoors

 

Also i belive it depends on the parents aswell, and if they make there kids go outside or they let them stay in. If you elt your kids stay in at an early age..then ovbiously they arnt going to have the social skills or any of that to want to get out and play when they get into there teens/adult hood

 

but i g2g so i cant finsih this off ha sorry !!!

[TOW-19]

Medux ]

and the generations have competley changed from 20 yrs ago to now so i dont think u can compare to back then. The amount of stuff that we have to play with/ or use (ipods,playstations ) kool stuff liek that..they didnt have really ANY of that stuff back then..so they didnt really have much of a choice to go out..i gurantee if u guys had it back then u would of been siting indoors

 

Listen "kid," (and I mean that literally, but jokingly) We DID have stuff like that back in the day.

PONG was actually something installed into old television sets with DIALS on it and you could play it without the use of a console.

We didn't have iPods, but we had walkmans and Discmans, and back then, those were pretty "advanced" for the day and age.

And we STILL went outside.....LOL. Not just indoors.

I don't think you're qualified to put much input into the yesteryear side of the conversation here, Medux, unless you're just giving us the one-sided generational viewpoint...which is a little short-sighted for the overall "through the ages" conversation going on here, how technology of TODAY is crippling the dynamics of YESTERDAY'S family for TOMORROW.

 

And just so everyone knows, we will be embracing Home. As Hippie said, we WILL have a UF-HQ that will hold the meetings online and everything, and we're looking forward to that. The main focus of this, though, is how the people IN GENERAL (that means not YOU, not ME, not HIM, but the general, overall populace) will (and HAVE) be affected by technology essentially REPLACING our d-e-s-i-r-e to communicate with one another on a very personal, integral level.

 

OR, I could simply type that as: IMO, ur not gonna remember how 2 properly comm like normal ppl should.

[SOTG Zero]

I've grown up with video games in my life... I was still 100% active outside. During the summer I played baseball everyday, rode my bike up and down the hills, went to the pool... Then when I was 12, SOCOM came out and at the same time, my parents were getting divorced. SOCOM was the greatest escape ever. I could hop on for hours on end and my mind would be totally off all the shit that was going on. Once that was over, I started to play socom for friendships and the clans, instead of just the game. You may say that would be type of stuff that would spawn a second life, but aren't we all guilty of it here at UF?

 

Me being myself, a pretty big introvert, I have never really been a social person. SOCOM taught me to be more social in the real world.... It's just something having to do with being self-conscious in the real world and then when you get on socom, you can be totally different. Over time, the way I was in SOCOM started to show in my life, I became more social.

 

So, from my personal experiences from growing up in this era, I can say that things like HOME, WoW, etc. aren't going to cause problems. Also, HOME isn't really good enough to become someone's second life. Unless you would enjoy bowling (takes 10 min to master a strike every time), playing pool (Boring), watching trailers (Boring), decorating (Boring, unless you're gay) and trying to talk to the idiots on HOME (Retarded).

 

 

[GHJUYT]

Undertow ]

OR, I could simply type that as: IMO, ur not gonna remember how 2 properly comm like normal ppl should.

 

couldn't agree more. that's why i hate (and for the most part don't) texting