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http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/712190/PSN-Class-Action-Lawsuit-Filed.html This came a lot sooner than I thought.

I didn't think they were "rebuilding" the PSN? I thought just adding some tougher security features.

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The answered everyone about the delay: I still think they could have warned people that this could be a possibility, whether they knew for a fact or not. Then they could have responded later it was just confirmed.

This is complete bullshit they waited this long to tell people. Complete bullshit!

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I agree with your analogy Bandit, but that's not what happened here. GeoHot jailbroke the Playstation 3. Just like he did with the iPhone, but he wasn't sued by Apple. Because the courts ruled he can do what ever he likes with his own personal property. And that's what happened here also. Now granted, once the PS3 was jailbroke, it obviously opened the doors to piracy on their system. But GoeHot never pirated anything from Sony. Nor did he give instructions on how to pirate games on the PS3. He even said he doesn't support that practice. So for Sony to sue him and then to get search warrants on anyone who viewed how to jailbreak the PS3, well they went to far. They absolutely have a right to protect their property, everyone does. But they trained their gun sights on the wrong person. Now if GeoHot jailbroke the PS3 and then showed that he pirated games, hence stole from Sony, then they have every right to protect their property. But again, that isn't what happened. Everyone has a right to do with whatever they want with their own property. Including the PS3. As long as it is legal. And from what I seen, nothing illegal happened when the PS3 was jailbroke. Sure it pretty much gave criminals the blue prints on how to pirate game, but then go after the criminals. Just like Apple does, just like Microsoft does with the XBOX, and I'm sure Nintendo does with the Wii. And don't get me wrong. I hate the fact that GeoHot did what he did. It just makes my online experience open to cheaters and hackers. But he didn't break any laws. Because if memory serves me correctly, they always said their PS3 couldn't be cracked. Well, someone did, and proved them wrong. He pissed Sony off, and they wanted retribution. And now we, the gamers, are paying for that retribution. They should have just strengthened their secruity on the PSN to now watch for more piracy. Just like your analogies.

Ohhh, OK. Thanks. I'll have to wait then.

How are people posting on the SOCOM.com forums? I thought you had to use the PSN to sign in.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/8946.html Next weekend at the lastest?!! Hooooe-leeee-shit!!! They have to be wrong, right?!

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Good luck with the new clan. So I take it the Aiel Sept clan is done?

I just watched this again, for probably the tenth time, and still laughed my ass off. And it's just the trailer.

IMO, Sony kicked a frakkin hornets nest, and got stung. And now we are paying for it. They went to far with their investigation. They should have just monitored their PSN and banned systems and users that were using illegal or unauthorized OS. They do not have a right to tell people what they can and can't do with their property. Anonymous has a point with the analogy they used with Microsoft. Could you imagine the uproar if they came out and said they are no longer allowing Firefox or Google Chrome? And you can ONLY use Internet Explorer. And if this is about piracy, it is even more of a outrage. Like the article points out, only about 2% of consoles users pirate games on their systems. And they can monitor that if they were more diligent. But if it is about piracy, it's like they are saying, "We made $400 billion last year, but that $500,000 we lost on pirated games is bullshit!" "Call the FBI, we need people in jail!!!" Now don't get me wrong, I DO NOT condone piracy in any shape or form. But they could have handled the whole jailbreak issue better. Every other system that was jailbroke did.

http://www.vg247.com/2011/04/23/hacked-to-death-sony-faces-crunch-time-over-psn-failures/ Hacked to death: Sony faces crunch-time over PSN failures Sony has been found immature and naive on hacking problems this year, and must address PSN security issues now or face dire consequences. Sony must demonstrate it is capable of dealing with this situation right now. If these episodes become regular in any way, PSN’s users, core or not, will lose faith in its brand and gravitate elsewhere. On paper, this was Sony’s year. The hardware manufacturer has its best ever PS3 line-up by some margin, is finally about to snake past 360 on a global level, is gearing up for NGP’s launch in the autumn, and is now dominating Japan. Hirai’s ten-year tree-planting exercise is showing ripe fruit. But PlayStation’s entire 2011 so far has been marred by a single issue: hacking. It’s a problem faced by all electronics manufacturers, but the manner in which Sony’s responded to a story which has refused to drop out of the headlines since returning from Christmas is now threatening the PlayStation brand itself. This week marked a significant turn in PlayStation’s 2011 hacking saga, with the American and European PSNs taking offline on Wednesday thanks to “external intrusionâ€. Services have still not been restored. While PS3’s battle with hacking had been largely contained to the core community and press in the first quarter of the year, Sony has now allowed the issue to affect its entire audience: it has been forced to deny millions of PSN users a key PlayStation feature over a global holiday, leaving anyone that doesn’t read sites like VG247, or is keen enough on PS3 and PSP to read the PS Blog, with no reason why they can’t play Portal 2 and Mortal Kombat on their Easter break. That error message really is ugly. And it’s still there. So what? It all started relatively innocuously. PS3 got hacked. The publication of the machine’s root key and a demonstration of the ability to sign code on jailbroken versions of PS3’s Firmware in the New Year were interesting as core stories, but for every, “This is massive,†there was a counter, “So what?†Without exception, every videogame console gets hacked. It’s par for the course. The question Sony faced was whether or not it actually mattered. The truth is that the huge majority of under-the-TV console users simply don’t pirate games. Chipping or running illicit OS software is always easy to detect, voids warranties and brings inevitable service-banning. For all but the serious hardcore, it’s just too much effort. Xbox 360 and Wii were cracked years ago, and if you look at download figures for pirated version of games on those platforms last year, Dante’s Inferno was the most torrented 360 title in 2010 with 1.23 million downloads, while Super Mario Galaxy 2 topped the Wii chart with 1.47 million. Taking 360’s global install base into account – some 50 million units – that means around 2 percent of 360 owners pirated the most popular illegal game last year. Yes, it’s semi-blind calculator-punching, but the number’s obviously very small. PC piracy is a far greater issue, as it’s largely devoid of consequences to the user: the PC version of Black Ops was torrented 4.7 million times last year, while it was pirated a significantly smaller 930,000 times on 360. PS3 was only hacked in January this year, having released in 2006. Instead of showing maturity and restraint, Sony sued George Hotz, the man responsible for the publication of PS3’s root key, and embarked on a ludicrous game of legal headline ping pong that, irrefutably, ended in PR disaster. While many supported the action against Hotz, many did not. A general feeling that Sony had “gone too far†pervaded comments threads, and Hotz himself proved to be a far stronger individual than Sony surely anticipated. Sony’s legal team was reduced to spurious accusations of Hotz’s creation of a PSN account he’d told a court didn’t exist – in relation to this, one of Hotz’s neighbours later said he’d lent his PS3 to the hacker – and even went as far as highlighting Hotz’s going on holiday to South America as damaging his case. While Sony managed to finish the Hotz debacle out of court, tying him down to heavy fines if he eversomuch as looks at a Sony product in anger again, the damage was done. Sony should never have sued Hotz. It solved nothing. The reasoning applied to taking Hotz to court was similar to that behind “drug warsâ€. You can’t stop people taking drugs: you just start wars. Some did opine in the case’s aftermath that a clear message had been sent to PS3 hackers, but it would be very easy to argue that Hotz got sued largely because he was so visible. Hotz achieved notoriety by hacking iPhone. Apple didn’t sue him. Jailbreaking iPhones was declared legal in July last year, because, as was constantly thrown up by Sony’s opposition in the PS3-Hotz case, some people want to fiddle with the innards of their personal property. Sony certainly did send a clear message by suing Hotz: hack PS3 and we’ll sue you, you’ll achieve international infamy and eventually you’ll get away with a “settlementâ€. Will it stop people trying to hack PS3? Of course not. Will it drive PS3 hackers out of sight? Very probably. And you can’t sue what you can’t see. The firm should have step-matched the hackers with Firmware updates – as it showed was possible as the legal case got underway – and strengthened PS3’s security without creating such a nonsensical fuss. Hotz, clearly a stupidly talented kid, said after he’d published PS3’s root key that he wanted to work with the likes of Sony and Microsoft on security: instead of taking the guy to court, why didn’t Sony talk to him? Had Sony behaved more sensibly we could have avoided Hotz rapping about Sony engaging him in forced, unlubricated anal sex – the worst kind – and the “George of the Jungle†headlines. There has to be a serious question over Sony’s judgement in the Hotz case. Regardless, the story was too geeky for the mainstream up to this point. If you’re reading this, you’re probably already familiar with what happened, but dude-who-buys-a-few-games-a-year couldn’t care less. What happened next, though, catapulted the story into the glare of the nationals, and was almost certainly the catalyst for the hack attack that crippled the American and European PlayStation Networks last week. We are Anonymous As the Hotz case was winding down, ultra-liberal hacking group Anonymous said it was to target Sony over both the Hotz case and Alexander Egorenkov, who’s being sued over his efforts to restore Linux use on PS3, a feature removed from the machine by a Firmware update in March 2010 over “security concernsâ€. For the record, the removal of OtherOS has always been Hotz’s stated reason for hacking PS3. This was terrible news for Sony. While there are those that dismiss Anonymous as some kind of A-level irritation rather than a real force, facts are facts: the group has been responsible for denial of service attacks that have taken down government websites, has been demonstrably involved in recent uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia, and took down MasterCard and Visa’s sites in response to their roles in pressuring Wikileak’s Julian Assange to stop publishing US government cables last year. Anonymous targeted PSN, bringing the service down for most of a day in early April. The user backlash online was significant enough to make the group change tack, saying it would no longer aim efforts at PSN, but encouraged sit-in protests at Sony stores, an effort which fell flat. Anonymous has said it will persist with action, but has denied it had anything to do with this week’s attack. No one outside of Sony and those responsible for the most recent incident knows what happened on Wednesday as yet, but whatever it was forced Sony to take the American and European PlayStation Networks offline. Let’s read that again: PSN is offline, and we don’t know when it’ll be back up. It is an intrinsic part of the current PlayStation offering. PSN is as much a part of PS3 as the console’s Blu-ray drive. On a most basic level, the fact PSN has been down the last three days is shocking news for gamers, but let’s not forget that Valve released a bespoke version of Portal 2 specifically tying together PSN and Steam earlier this week, and the PS3 version is now unplayable. You’d have to expect that Gabe and co may think twice before doing that again. Taking a broader view, PSN has 75 million accounts and is responsible for safeguarding the personal information and credit card details of users all over the world. The implications to a completely unkown hacker or group of hackers – whether a splinter of Anonymous, as some have suggested, or not – waltzing around PSN to such a degree that Sony has to take it offline for the best part of a week, will be casting a long shadow over Mr Hirai’s office tonight. Sony’s escalation of its war on hacking could potentially threaten not only Sony’s ability to cut content deals, but, in a nightmare scenario, may compromise personal information of its millions of users. Sony must demonstrate it is capable of dealing with this situation right now. If these episodes become regular in any way, PSN’s users, core or not, will lose faith in its brand and gravitate elsewhere. PSN must be robust enough to withstand external influences, whatever they are. We can only hope we soon see an apparently hopelessly naive Sony make good on what is, in reality, a disaster for PS3. Services are built on trust, something Sony now has to work hard to rebuild.

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$300?! I paid $600. And then another $300 when my 60gb took a dump.

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How do you use the noob tube?

That was me. I pretty much hated the beta. But I absolutely love this game. I cannot wait for the center dot, and DLC. I said it before, but I think what we are seeing is the tip of the iceberg for SOCOM 4.

It is ranked? I didn't think it was. But maybe that's because RVN was playing RVN. lol We tried the clan match making system the first night, and it was a pain in the arse to say the least. So we just broke the clan in half and challenged each other. But I'm glad Zipper thought of clans challenging each other and then the room becomes unranked.

I think your right.

Yep, it wasn't ready for launch. http://forums.socom.com/t5/SOCOM-4/No-Party-System-for-the-games-release-Updated-with-Roper-s/m-p/1745794#M446363