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Rooster!!? hell he already knows that and probably a lot more... LOL he was just looking to find out who else around here was like minded. ;D

Yea, that sounds right. BTW, got mine today at another Gamestop. PSN - IrshZ28 You first redeem your confirmation code at http://www.publicbeta.socom.com when they send you the promotional code. (won't be sent until closer to release date) then you goat to the PSN network and redeem your promotional code YOU must do that first BEFORE sharing the code with two friends.. After all of that please jump through this additional loop of fire.. bow down on your knees and say.. "there's no game like Socom, there's no game like Socom, there's no game like Socom.." click you heels together three times and whalla!! you're in!

Yep....

Anybody else thinks this is wayyyy to much information.. ?

Thanks for the nice words King.. What I did to help out JyK I would do for any new clan that I saw was having a bit of a tough time getting adjusted to Urgent Fury. It was my pleasure to help you guys out. MAD/LUV for the UF community. GOAT.

I'll be sending an invite out as well to you bro.. you guys do know the last update now allows up to 100 friends on your list instead of 50 right? not sure if that was mentioned elsewhere here in UF?.. but yeah 100 now.

Did anyone tell PrimeMeat about this..? he showed up at Midnight Mass saw a bunch of Ravens, thought he was in a Hitchcock film and tore ass out of there.. ??? That’s how PBK got rid of Prime.. we used to be PB-OK but we dropped the O and didn’t tell Prime. LMAO!! ;D Just kidding.. good stuff Tow, and good luck with your new clan, it’s hard to see such a long established clan name like APC go away but hey, new consoles.. new game.. new clan name it all goes together just fine eh!! p.s. Mad/luv for my ex team mate Prime.. he knows I’m just ripping on him.. :P Peace yo.

I played every LC game that was put out on the PC. I loved them, they were hot! However when they finally put out one for the newer consoles, (ps2) It sucked it was delayed big time and when it did come out it was total garbage. Since I no longer play PC games and didn't like the console versions. I gave up on LCroft. I will wait for the reviews on this one and see if it is worth it. As far the new model.. dayam big improvement at the top. (I will miss Angeline's big lips. but not her bow legged been hard ridden and put up wet lower body.) Just me opinion ole chap, but come on Billy Bob Thornton? do I really want her after that?

To date, five Canadians, Ali Alwan, Bernard Gooden, Vatche Arslanian, Jonathan J. Simpson and Michael Seeley are known to have died in the Iraqi conflict. Yes, Canada choose not to be part of the invasion force citing the need for UN approval. Canada however did send a 50 member coalition force. Five Canadians is by no means a large number of Canadian deaths and doesn’t come close to comparison to US or other nations losses. You may choose to see it as insignificant from a general Canadian citizen’s point of view. However I would wager that the family members of those that gave their life in the Iraqi war would disagree with that assumption. I tried to stay out of this *POLITICAL thread since Urgent Fury forums guidelines discourage any Political or Religions based discussions, they always lead to heated argument and since UF is about respect for one another political debate is better left to politicians. To put this to rest and attempt to end this discussion. THE FLAG CODE Title 36, U.S.C., Chapter 10 The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property. So I would agree, it makes no difference that it is a video game, its all about respect. I’m sure it was a simple graphics mistake by Sega of America and not intentional. However I also can understand that intentional or not the display of the U.S. flag as well as any Nation’s flag should not be done in a disrespectful manner at any time or place. That includes in something as trivial as a video game So that’s it this should not have even been brought up here however it should indeed be brought to the attention of the game developer since I’m not sure they are even aware of the error. Furthermore, the turning of this into a Canadian/US debate on individual National Pride degrades the respect for one another we hold so high in value. I ask everyone just refrain now from continuing this thread it has no merit. Let’s move on.

LOL.. yeah bandit I snooped it myself .. we all know where Snopes is. I left it as is when i copied and pasted it because well it's funny.. no need to verify it.

If YOU'RE OLD AND DON'T MOVE FAST ANYMORE here’s what you do. George Phillips of Meridian, Mississippi was going up to bed when his wife told him that he'd left the light on in the garden shed, which she could see from the bedroom window. George opened the back door to go turn off the light but saw that there were people in the shed stealing things. He phoned the police, who asked "Is someone in your house?' he said “No they are in the shedâ€. The police told him that all patrols were busy, nobody was available and that he should simply lock his door and an officer would be along eventually. George said, 'OK,' hung up, counted to 30, and phoned the police again. “Hello, I just called you a few seconds ago because there were people stealing things from my shed. Well, you don't have to worry about them now because I just shot them.†Then he hung up. Within three minutes six police cars, a SWAT Team, a helicopter, two fire trucks, a paramedic an ambulance and a K-9 unit showed up at the Phillip's residence and caught the burglars red-handed in the act of the crime. One of the Policemen said to George: “I thought you said that you'd shot them!' George looked him square in the eye and said, “I thought you said there was nobody available!†(True Story) I LOVE IT – Some old people you just don’t mess with. p.s. yep I still drop by the x-box section from time to time.. hopefully we will find a way to offer more events to the Xbox UF community in the near future.

That looks like it was a lot of fun. Sure wish I could have made it. Hopefully it will become an annual event, gives me plenty of time to plan for the next one. Good pics. Thanks for sharing them.

Phi Beta Kappa... or PBK! PBK Dawg!! but I have more fun with my handle.. This has been a....

Wow! I took a look at that screen shot you put up WIZ,.. . I can’t believe it!! Unbelievable!! Holy shit! YOU STILL USE EXPLORER!!? :o Wow! j/k LMAO! and yea I know it was Mozilla.. thank god.. this post was modified by goat.. only goat.. no one else.. not any one besides goat.. yes I modified it and I might do it again.. who knows?

$700,000 a month... hmmm.. err... huh... hmmm.. :-\ fuck it! no! it's not worth it!! but schit for that kind of money? hmmm.. NO dayam!! get it out your head Goat! it's not worth it! LOL. j/k. I'm sure they will goat after him for the money as well. he will end up a broke ass or broken ass (or both) mofo.

If this was around the same time as a game convention in LV then I would consider making the trip as well, besides it's VEGAS! I don't really need an excuse to go to Vegas, but it's helps. CES used to be THE place for new video game products before E3. I remember reading old EGMs when the Genesis was kicking ass and the SNES was on the horizon, and CES was what everyone looked forward to. CES or (Consumer Electronics Show) holds a Winter convention every year in Vegas. There as been talk of a return of Video games to the convention floor and in a big way. Aside from E3 CES seems to want to make the transistion between video games, the consoles, and LCD and plasma displays, in a sort of whole package idea. I'll find out more and let you guys know, but if this happens than you can bet I'll be there.. hell it will even be a tax wright off for me!! whoot!!!!

I like how the chick cop comes up at the end trying to be all bad ass and stuff with the old dude.. then the guy cop tells her to lay off. ;D

We have a winner!! Yes in a sense, but hops refer more to lag or herky jerky movement. Why I labled it as Ping rate is because I was explaining how the “Pixel Collision Detection†system works. Hops directly determine and effect one’s ping rate, the more hops the slower ping. So yes how many hops effects lag, espicailly since your don’t control the hops the internet does, When a message is sent over the internet, it may go by a direct route (2 or 3 hops expressway) or it may be sent on a more scenic route, (many hops through the country by the back roads) Each hop adds a few milliseconds to the journey. The journey or road trip is what is the correct definition for the term “LAGâ€. And here we are part two of “Stat’s Ping Rate and Rubber Bullets†Our next lesson kids is called “Interpolation". The server interpolates moves ( basically forecasting each player's predicted movements over time ) and sends these guesses out to each console. The messages that come back in to the server are then used to synchronize and refine its forecasts. The shorter the lag, the less likely the server is to make wildly inaccurate guesses as a lot can happen in even a quarter of a second. The downfall is the guesses become exponentially more inaccurate with a player that has a extremely bad lag connection enters your gaming room. The “WTF! He wasn’t anywhere near me when he killed me? is due to this inaccurate forecasting by the server. Ping enters the equation as a diagnostic by the server to determine each players coherent lag. Ping is simply a time stamp of round trip message travel. How it effects your game however is it is used to determine the amount of Interpolation for a given player as well as the amount of “Pixel Collision detection†leeway granted. And you thought it was all about your Skills!!! Tsk tsk tsk.. LOL.

I came to this knowledge through research and by way of “wondering why things appear the way they doâ€. I kept thinking, it’s my router settings, my connection, my ISP, my skills in the game, my reaction time, my fault and hence I can fix it.. I was wrong it’s none of these. In the end I decided there isn’t anything I can do about it. The frustration of this sort of goat the better of me eventually. However I’ve got past it. These days I play only with friends, I play only with people I know, I don’t care if it’s unranked since I DON’T CARE about RANK. I can’t even remember the last time I looked at my stats.. None of it matters. I don’t CARE about STATS. I play on in a room when I am getting a 1-50 kill/rate. When I notice things don’t look right. I just laugh and shrug it off. For the children who think their stats prove their proficiency at a game is good, they just don’t get it. When you do away with rank, stats and numbers, the game becomes much more enjoyable you play for the sheer pleasure and fun of it. While winning is fun, losing doesn’t mean that much. You haven’t beat me. My ego will not suffer from the fate of my Cartoon character in a video game. When I finally realized this, it became more enjoyable. I can’t remember the last time I threw my controller across the room. Which has saved me countless money. The mid-sized box which contains a number of broken controllers, headsets and other items was full any way. LOL. Peace yo, Goat.

Most PC games rely on the host or server to be the *actual host and not a central server acting as such. In this case where the host is actually hosting, how good their connection is and/or the distance each of the players are from the host computer is relative. However in console games there isn't any real hosting by individuals, the host or server is always the game developers for the game itself. In this case where or how far a player is from you has no bearing. How far they are from the game server does. What matters is the relationship between your ping rate with the server and that of the other players ping rate with the host server. Knowing Omni, as I do, I'm sure he's actually asking how does one decrease their ping. Increasing your ping means you have a worst connection. The higher your ping rate the more time it takes for the loop route to occur. The lower your ping rate the faster or better your connection is. Or else he's asking how is it others manipulate the system? I'll answer this in the hopes that the community of UF's honor is such that just because someone knows how to manipulate something doesn't mean they will. As usual it's all about honor and this information is already out there for the finding. Knowing about a glitch or cheat and using it are two entirely different things are they not. However I will just give one example, there are more but this isn't a lesson on manipulation and is only for the purpose of example. The key is the system doesn't constantly verify the ping rates, i.e. it's not that dynamic. If one was to superficially increase their ping rate by a number of ways for a few minutes so their average ping is recorded to be higher than it actually is than decrease their ping to normal or better, they would retain the detection advantage along with a low ping and it's high detection rate. Shots anywhere close to other players get recorded, your shots at him don't. Knowing this gives you insight as to why lag switches worked so well. When a cheater uses a lag switch they ostensibly gain more than just the temporary advantage of lagging out, they also gain the ping collision detection advantage since their overall average ping rate is increased as well. The system does continue to evaluate each players average ping and adjust. But the cheater is ahead of the game and either leaves to join another game and start all over or continue on with their wicked ways. This is just one of many ways the system is manipulated. Like I said knowing this and using it are two different things. In providing this information I feel it's important that for us, those that desire only fair and honorable conduct in online gaming it gives the knowledge needed to identify the dishonorable. Ping rates will fluctuate however major increases for a period of time followed by major decreases is a sure tell sign that someone may be playing by a different set of rules then you.

Ping = Round Trip Time from your comp to the servers computer and then back to your comp. There isn't anything you can do about it. The only thing to do is to conduct tracers from your comp to other comps and document where the bottleneck is. Most likely the problem is somewhere on your ISP's network. You are going to have to make a case against them if you find anything wrong. Bad Ping can also be attributed to spyware swallowing up bandwidth, to many PC’s hooked to your Router etc.. or incorrect settings.. you could go here http://www.dslreports.com/tools Run the tweak test. It will tell you things you can change to get a little more from your connection, it usually doesn't do a lot, unless your settings are bad off. Of course with the current way they use this so-called “anti-lag†system one could always increase their ping instead of lowering it. Not exactly the honorable road. However if your looking for the unfair advantage lowering your ping rate will have an opposite effect. (Goes back to the old “Socom doesn’t like your high speed connection†thread). We used to joke that if you are downloading massive amounts of porn while playing online your hit detection increases.. Actually that’s not far off the truth. SAD!! Truly Sad!

Stat’s, Ping Rates and Rubber Bullets.. A goat report. Stat’s- who cares! It’s all a joke. It will always be a joke. The top of the list on any shooter game is the best cheater. You need to look for the large gap, i.e. at some point there will be a large gap in the stats, when you see it you’re getting close to the actual best player. Some other observations, Accuracy - The pinhead.. high accuracy = NOT a team player, you don’t lay down cover fire, you don’t support your team. You care more about your accuracy stat then a win. You always use single shot or a shotgun. You would never use a Light machine gun. You have a Splitfish FragFX controller. The real deal.. high accuracy = you’re a sniper, it’s what you do, you take your time and go for the good shot. However you aren’t so worried about the stat as to not use your pistol and come to the aid of a team mate. Most Kills - The pinhead.. You have no life, you play the game 24/7 you haven’t taken the game disk out of the console since you bought it. You have 200 days of play time even though the game has only been out for 180 days. ?? Don’t ask me how that happened? The Real Deal.. you have the most kills in the last war you played with your clan and helped win the war. Who cares about anything else? Kill/Death Ratio..- Let’s get to the real deal here.. since this has been going on since Socom 2 and I’m basically sick of it.. I tried to explain this a while back.. hell I even had cartoons for illustration. Some got it.. some didn’t. It’s about the game servers attempts at trying to even the odds between your good connection and the other guys crappy net=zero connection. It’s called “Pixel collision detection.†Its a latency-based system which uses algorithms to adjust hit registrations according to a mean average between 2 players whose latency (ping) is plus/minus 50 difference between them. It will delay the registration for faster connections, and speed it up for the slower one. In other words, it gives slower ping players a fighting chance against players with a much faster ping. Or at least that’s the idea. In practice however it’s the reason you sometimes appear to be dead before the other guy even shoot at you. Which is an illusion created by the algorithm used. Using pixel collision, as COD4 does still often seems like a shot which is way off finds the target, and a shot which is spot on, misses. COD started using this system in COD2 and is still at it. Socom mid-way through Socom2. Remember how it was in Socom2 early on. I bet you can almost give the day you noticed something changed? Ok I agree without something in place the faster ping players will ALWAYS win against the slower ping players. However the system in place goes way too far in its attempt to even the odds. The results is with blatant over compensation the slower ping player has the advantage. If they turn off the so-called “anti-lag†system (their term for it) it will greatly limit the traffic for players whose ping rates are outside the average values. Extreme good connections and Extreme bad connections simply won’t be able to connect reducing players to only ping rates in a certain range. The answer- the host needs greater control over the game they are hosting. All players ping rates available for view, the ability to kick players whose ping rates fall short or are way above the norm. or else a system that doesn’t allow cross matched ping rates in the first place. This may result in bad connects playing against bad connects and good ping vs good ping. Etc. However gone will be the “rubber bullets syndrome. For now the system doesn’t come in effect if.. everyone’s ping rate in the room is relatively close at which point the system is automatically turned off. All it takes however is one player with a crappy or blazing connection to mess it up for everyone.â€. p.s. For the geeks in the house or if you just like goofy illustrations, here’s a tutorial on Pixel Collision Detection http://www.ziggyware.com/readarticle.php?article_id=48 The system is flawed, can easily be manipulated and makes for frustrating WTF’ness in game play. As long as they continue to use it STATS HAVE NO MEANING WHAT SO EVER!.

Actually the dancing *is sort of fun, but only if it’s between you and some friends in a open match. I.e. you and your friends are just razzing one another. In UF Sanctioned wars it’s not appropriate. The idea being you already killed the player, no need to taunt, t-bag, dance on his body, dead body necro pumping, fill him full of lead.. etc.. etc.. Besides in a war, if the competitor wasn’t the last guy on the opposing team, you’re not doing your team any favors by hanging around dancing like an idiot any way. If he was the last guy then the respectful thing to do is do nothing and wait for the game to end. It has to do with familiarity.. if I know you and you know me than it’s ok to have some fun razzing one another, as long as we both agree on it. If I don’t know you and you pull that schit. Then it’s just childish behavior and disrespectful. In a UF War, at all times we maintain a higher level of respect for one another, hence for the purpose of competition all taunts and other discourteous behavior is disallowed. That said, if it could be done at any time and not just on a dead competitor that would be sort of fun.. like .. COOL! I got Nacku! He was moon walking out in the open the fool!! So I popped him in the foot! Followed by a bullet to the dome! Moon walk that! byotch! LOL! j/k and once again only cool if you know one another and are just having some fun and have agreed with each other to just mess around, more for private non ranked pass worded rooms between friends only.

I tried that.. but SheRa's head gear got stuck... I kept pulling on her breast but them dayam wings on her head almost got me caught' date=' good thing I had my converse all stars on.. oh you were talking about the game disk? eh? nevermind.. that wasn't me, I wasn't even there.. really! not me! nope not me.. p.s. SheRa, too bad you got stuck but it was good for me! hope it was good for you? .. err who am I kidding I don't care if it was good for you. ;D