Sad Story about leaving UF...

[[<+>] mic--]

Sorry this is so long..I hope you all read it, even if you do in small steps, as people here deserve to know.

 

Hello everyone, theres a few things I wanted to share with everyone, and it's a bit of a sad story but there's a few reasons I feel it should be stated. The admins can do with this thread what they want, but most importantly I feel there are many good people in this tournament that deserve to know about things that have been going on. For all the great people involved in UF, and for the hard work, effort, and dedication they put in, I feel it should at least be said to show that that very thing they work hard for ISN'T or HASN'T been spat on like some would believe. There is now a lone person on these forums who has betrayed his own friends..and is currently misleading many people here. I'm clearing up the truth and also to point him out so more people don't get mislead in the future. And trust me..I feel there really ARE some great people involved at this community. I would know..we've met them and became friends with them.

 

There was recently a big thing that went down with a clan you all know by now, which apparently tried to undermine UF and what they're trying to do here. Well, I'm here representing the position of the clan's original leadership and core founding members, which wish to clear up the record and show the truth on the negative things that happened.

 

I think there are a lot of clans here that remember an 'iMr' from Socom, and those memories aren't good for a lot of people. After the huge misunderstanding that recently happened, the leadership of this clan is really saddened as the new 'iMr', with all new members and a rebuilt core belief system, was kicked out from participating in UF when it was, to them, the new big chance to show a new face and new era. Unfortunately, we are hurting the most as we were prevented from showing this turnaround all because of one rogue member, who not only did things behind our back which got us kicked but also spread more lies here amongst UF. It has so far been unable to show the real truth to the rest of the community as all members were immediately banned - except for that one rogue "cancerous" member.

 

And like I said, this isn't a thread to plead for mercy or undo what has been done..the past is the past and we have accepted it, but rather this thread is to expose the truth.

 

Many here have heard that iMr wished to someday run it's own league, which has been a longterm dream of the founding members ever since the clan's creation on Socom 1. Althought it is, and always has been, just a dream, a certain ex-member of the clan (xLASTx) was more enthusiastic about it and wanted to see it a reality. In his "official apology" thread which I recently heard of, some things he said are true..while others are not. Again..I'm here to clear up the truth to you all, and may you better be prepared for such situations in the future. What he said about being told to "gather some interest" among other clans is correct. However, iMr's leadship never (and WOULD NEVER) authorize the direct rule breaking of a tournament site and it's community. That direct action..which in the end got the entire clan removed..was in the wrong judgement and decision making of one single cancerous member, who went behind us all at a time when we wanted nothing but to prove to UF we were a new, organized, respectful, and dedicated clan.

 

We feel very hurt because of what happened; not only did we get kicked out of a highly reputed competitive community, but we also were banned and prevented from at least explaining our true feelings - feelings which were positive and excited to finally be in and to be doing so well. We never meant to undermine UF or it's rules, and none of our members (those remaining) had any intention of trying to break any of them. We met a lot of friends in this tournament..well, the 3 weeks we were in it - you know who you are, if you're reading this, and even though we are out of UF, we are still glad we met the people we did in the time we were given.

 

But most importantly..and the reason we are the most hurt..is that the very reason we are gone from UF - that one member, has been running rampant here using the situation against us, while we are unable to defend ourselves. It hurts us all to have tried so hard to make it and be betrayed by one person - no, not betrayed once, but continually..as far up as the most recent thread he made blaming his clan's leadership as using him as a scapegoat. Perhaps we should have known, or seen the signs, back when that small debate erupted between him and CTU (or COU?) clan..perhaps we should have known to remove him. If that's the case, then it's on us for not getting rid of someone who had potental to do something wrong again before it was too late..and now it IS too late.

 

I guess at the end of the story, I just want everyone to know that things aren't always what they appear. While many members here responded to the whole situation shortly after with negative and heated opinions and the clan, and while those opinions hurt (at a time when we were dedicated to proving ourselves) in the end you have your right to your opinion, and iMr will not try to change anyone's opinion at this point. We felt being in UF was the chance to prove it, and because of one person, we lost that chance. I would just like for everyone to consider though that all our core members were dedicated since day 1, followed every rule, met other clans, were respectful to those we met, and tried to do our best. Our ex-coleader, Mainevent, went through endless hours of work and effort to get us involved in UF, especially at a time he was going through so much pain in his personal life, which details I won't go into here. If anything, look to the dedication Mainevent put in for all of us as a sign of the clan's dedication here. Please don't let the single action of one member (who has been removed from the clan since this incident happened) reflect the nature of all the rest of our members. Although being kicked was a huge blow to us all..and our beloved coleader and several other members have since quit the clan indefintely, we still extended our friendship to xLASTx even after his actions got us removed. But..after seeing his last thread which was a huge slap in the face to the people which were his friends, we are very very hurt to see him turn on us the way he did.

 

Rules are rules..being kicked from a tournament means you got kicked because rules were broken, and shouldn't be taken as a personal attack.

When a member of a clan is kicked...it is because he is kicked according to rules also..and we in iMr are shocked that he has personally turned on us in such a bad way.

 

After all is said and done...we still don't know why Last is still here on these forums. Not only was he the lone member that broke a fatal rule, but is the one who has betrayed his own friends and could do so to people in the future. It hurts to even say these things about him, as we were friends at first even after kicking him..but it's the reality of the situation.

 

Goodluck to all in UF, hope that perhaps someday iMr (if we continue to survive much longer after all of this - I doubt it) could come back to show things right.

[Guest [APC]Swifthawk]

Thanks for the info Nomic... good to finally get some truth around here. Members of UF don't appreciate being lied to.. twice.

[CpDude05]

Yes, thanks for clearing it up. I will have to read the rest in a bit. lol

[Malik4Play]

Well said Nomic

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lol thnx guys, again sorry for it being so long but its put together as a collective feeling of 10-12 members who are very bummed out right now.

 

What sucks the most is that Last was one of the most well liked members of the clan...so well liked infact that it was damn hard to even have voted on him being removed. We wish he could have known our feelings on him in the short time before he got kicked..even thou a single one of his actions got us removed from UF, no1 felt any real resentment and still wanted to be friends with him..heh imagine tht eh?. I guess his upbeat nature and enthusiasm makes it friggin hard to not like him once u get to know him i guess

 

like i said..it's a sad time for all of us

[TOW-19]

After all is said and done...we still don't know why Last is still here on these forums.

 

All the bans put on [iMr] members were taken down two days ago and all accounts were deleted.

As you can imagine, UF at this point does not know WHO or HOW many in the [iMr] clan were involved in this "recruiting" business, and to be very short here, for all we know, your explanation could be just as untruthful as you say xLASTx's is.....just more eloquently written.

We're not saying we believe him over you, or vice versa.....all we're saying is, at this point, we don't know WHO to believe, and all we know is that clan [iMr] were using OUR PM system to recruit clans to another tourney, an action we find despicable.

 

So the accounts were deleted.

I don't like deleting accounts and will not bother deleting yours or his or anyone else that comes here.

HOWEVER, if anymore notices come to our door about your clan continuing to recruit members of UF -from- within our forum, we're going to take that very personally.

 

 

[Guest Skipper]

Well, been there done that.

 

It takes just a couple of knuckleheads to ruin for everyone. Unfortunately, these knuckleheads always seem to be the most active of the clan on the forums. They can't find an english textbook but they sure do know how to register on website forums.

 

Good luck to you guys.

[[<+>] mic--]

Undertow ]

After all is said and done...we still don't know why Last is still here on these forums.

 

All the bans put on [iMr] members were taken down two days ago and all accounts were deleted.

As you can imagine, UF at this point does not know WHO or HOW many in the [iMr] clan were involved in this "recruiting" business, and to be very short here, for all we know, your explanation could be just as untruthful as you say xLASTx's is.....just more eloquently written.   

We're not saying we believe him over you, or vice versa.....all we're saying is, at this point, we don't know WHO to believe, and all we know is that clan [iMr] were using OUR PM system to recruit clans to another tourney, an action we find despicable. 

 

So the accounts were deleted.

I don't like deleting accounts and will not bother deleting yours or his or anyone else that comes here.

HOWEVER, if anymore notices come to our door about your clan continuing to recruit members of UF -from- within our forum, we're going to take that very personally.

 

 

 

Everyone in the clan understands completely what happened, why we were kicked, and why we were banned. We won't ever try to hide from what's been done. Instead of wildly pleading the case about "who's side is true" I guess the only thing I could do is to leave one small statement..that no1 but the member in question ever used the PM system here at UF. I would bank the entire reputation of the clan and our fellow members on this fact..which is y we'd like the community here to know that it was never our intention to break the rules. As I mentioned, we think Mainevent's hard work and dedication on behalf of the clan towards UF speaks for itself. People in the clan regard Mainevent very highly, and respect him for the work he did for ALL of us. It is for reason's like this that we would never go do something directly to mess it all up. And judging from the hurt Mainevent felt after it all crumbled down, at a time when he was goin thru some bad times, (even leaving online gaming itself a few days ago) it's a shame the person in question has shown no guilt towards Mainevent and the dedication he represented for all the members.

[HippieChik]

Nomic, It does suck that what happened, happened.  Now, without stirring up a bunch of crap or going into any detail, I just want to point out that the actions of the person who broke the rules was not the only time that someone from iMr showed behavior (since this tourney started) that is not appreciated within this community.

 

I point this out because I am not sure if you realize this or not.  Either way, maybe one day you all can reorganize without the "cancer" and have the opportunity to prove yourselves.

 

Good luck to you all.

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@ hippie, sure there have been slipups and no1 in the clan is without flaws, and we have had several lessons learned in our 3 weeks here..which in the end were good lessons learned. And that speaks for clan staff thru regular members. We've had moments where members wanted to come out the next day and apologize about things..but were still getting used to the guidelines and felt it'd be better to let things be. We don't consider ourselves lower of higher than others..but in the end, i guess after comin back from faults with a new way of lookin at things, i guess it's just that feeling of betrayal of friendship that can sting the most.

[[RIP]saint52]

God's speed, hope you guys can make it......COU re-built better than ever.....just stay true to eachother....and your foundation will solidify again....peace

[Guest KingJunk]

Skipper ]

Well, been there done that.

 

It takes just a couple of knuckleheads to ruin for everyone. Unfortunately, these knuckleheads always seem to be the most active of the clan on the forums. They can't find an english textbook but they sure do know how to register on website forums.

 

Good luck to you guys.

 

True that!!

 

Skipp you may remember "Last" as "First" on SOCOM he was one of Cosmo's boys from the lil clan thingy that did NOT go so well!

 

Nomic trust me when I say this, you guys will bounce back and be even stronger than what you were before this. I do BELIEVE if Undertow and members of this Community can forgive a clan for using Ringer's in one of their BIG Tournaments they MAY Forgive iMr of there actions and give you a chance to bounce back, but don't bet on that because that's just what I think, but at times I don't know SHIT as I am still learning new things about UF, but like I was saying I went through something similar like this where it cause many members of my clan to leave in which is funny because Last help build it LoL, but we changed our name and got some new members and came back to compete in UF and you know what we became Champs here and many of them members who left to join another clan that another member of my old clan made was slowly knocking back on my door.

 

All I am saying is tell Whitesky not to give up on iMr and bounce back from this and you can tell him KingJunk said not to give up, he knows who I am!!

 

Good Luck!!

[pito]

You not the only one who had a problem and got kicked out. Come back next time wit those bad apples gone and who knows mayb will be playing aside u. Good Luck

 

-PiT0-

[SEQUOYAH]

Hey, TOW. I know we already have the BEST in online gaming tournaments. You think maybe we could start some time of grammar tournament? I mean with all the posts and stuff and commas where they dont need to be and many many run on sentences with commas where periods need to be I mean I think it could really do the community some good ya know because there are lots of people here and maybe they might win i mean I think i might win if you do have a tournament for grammer is forums and stuff or maybe they could just go to .............oh you get the point.

 

Just havin fun folks. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

[Guest H.A.V.0.C]

Damn my fucking head hurts now, although, I have never been one for... he said, she said BS. I do respect the fact that you are standing up for what you feel is right. But! I don't know who the hell to believe......so I'm giving it the old, Good luck, and I hope things work out for you guys.

[[LA]MAXIMUS666]

_SEQUOYAH ]

Hey, TOW. I know we already have the BEST in online gaming tournaments. You think maybe we could start some time of grammar tournament? I mean with all the posts and stuff and commas where they dont need to be and many many run on sentences with commas where periods need to be I mean I think it could really do the community some good ya know because there are lots of people here and maybe they might win i mean I think i might win if you do have a tournament for grammer is forums and stuff or maybe they could just go to .............oh you get the point. 

 

Just havin fun folks. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

I like this sentence^

[GOAT]

And why would I not read a post that rivals the likes of a GOAT POST!!

 

 

I'm with the other members here, I'm not sure what to believe about all of this.. ? But honestly I'll goat back to my statement on the HUGE iMr banned thread.. I believe all of this is a in -house iMr debate, problem, concern..etc.. While I admire the desire to "speak the truth" I simply would prefer that iMr's members get together and decide what needs to be done in concerns to their clan and it's members. Than rather than hold court here and have us hear testimonies from iMr's members on it all.. Whom ever is the leader and in the position to speak for the clan simply state their, (opinion, apology explanation.. whatever) and leave this be. If I choose to believe it or not is irrelevant that it is the official position of iMr's leadership is. Once this is done than that's it, no longer needs to be discussed and everyone can move forward.

 

UF as is the case in the past, can be very considerate in terms of allowing a clan that may have gone through a membership issue a chance to rebuild and fix any errors as well as get radiation therapy for any cancers.. if the cancer goes into remission and the clan becomes healthy again. We're not above giving them another chance to prove themselves.. It's been done before and has seen a lot of good results, don't get discouraged.

[Chili327]

_SEQUOYAH ]

Hey, TOW. I know we already have the BEST in online gaming tournaments. You think maybe we could start some time of grammar tournament? I mean with all the posts and stuff and commas where they dont need to be and many many run on sentences with commas where periods need to be I mean I think it could really do the community some good ya know because there are lots of people here and maybe they might win i mean I think i might win if you do have a tournament for grammer is forums and stuff or maybe they could just go to .............oh you get the point. 

 

Just havin fun folks. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

I like that sentence best ..lol

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Sliced!

 

(this is the word I am trying to replace"pwned" with)

[Deutscher75]

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Sliced!

 

(this is the word I am trying to replace"pwned" with)

 

sorry no dice

[TOW-19]

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Sliced!

 

(this is the word I am trying to replace"pwned" with)

 

Hell, in the vein of "Mean Girls," we'll just start trying to use the phrase "that's SO fetch" here as well.

[Guest last]

See you your doing what i said right now WHITE some how you have seemed to take no responsible for anything. I already said that i should have not done what i did but yet you can't say Sorry for the HITLIST i made or sorry for when i came onto these forums and posted talking all that shit about UF. But no i am once again thrown under the bus. I just want to make a couple point's you said i was the only one pushing this all by myself so i was in those psn chats talking to myself for hours right ? I mean even those members who thought up this whole idea with me where willing to take the blame along with me but I talked them out of it. Also you'r right you never came out and said go to UF and use there PMing system but any person could tell while talking to you like i was what you wanted done. But as many a members here has said many the members of iMr where fine but those who remeber what you did before will never forgive iMr so inorder for there tobe a New iMr the leadership is going to have to change.

[Guest last]

But there where alot of fun times in iMr and i'm sad to hear Main has left and i do hope that you guys can make it through all this cus otherwise who is my clan going to face lol.

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Undertow ]

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Sliced!

 

(this is the word I am trying to replace"pwned" with)

 

Hell, in the vein of "Mean Girls," we'll just start trying to use the phrase "that's SO fetch" here as well.   

 

POP OFF SON! How bout that?

 

Sliced was gay...but thought it was a good time for a refrence.

[GHJUYT]

Deutscher75 ]

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Sliced!

 

(this is the word I am trying to replace"pwned" with)

 

sorry no dice

 

Deutscher just pwned you!

 

Deutscher just sliced you!

 

It sounds like you just physically "sliced" him!